2009 $20 Prop Challenge Discussion

[Zombie-F]

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This is the thread for all discussion concerning the "2009 $20 Prop Challenge."

Please refer to this thread (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=15134) for the official rules.

Everyone be completely aware that winners from the previous challenge (2008 McGuyver of Haunting Challenge) are not eligible to win prizes in the current challenge. You may still enter, but your entry will not be in the running for a prize.

Feel free to ask questions, make comments and by all means... talk amongst yourselves. :D

[Ms. Wicked]

Yay! I love talking to myself!

Oh, you said talk amongst yourselves! oops!

This is always such a fun contest. I can't wait to see what everybody makes this year!

Who's in?

[beelce]

I am in for this one!!......Already found most of the parts I need....now I just need to clear off a work table and do it.

[Revenant]

HOOO-raaaaawww! http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/pjhawke/smilies/gogirl.gifLet the madness begin!!!!

This is my favorite contest. It's when you put the screws to people's resources that you really see the creativity come out.

[Zombie-F]

HOOO-raaaaawww! http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/pjhawke/smilies/gogirl.gifLet the madness begin!!!!

This is my favorite contest. It's when you put the screws to people's resources that you really see the creativity come out.

My thoughts exactly. I love this one because aside from the price restriction, it's anything goes.

[Bethene]

great, been waiting for this!! I believe I know what I want to make, have a couple of idea's, but one project is the front runner, have to buckle down and decide for sure!

[Devils Chariot]

Im psyched!...psyched!psyched!psyched! my first $20 prop contest.

[Sickie Ickie]

I love the price restriction! I'm in!

[Draik41895]

Im in,crap i just forgot what i wanted to make

[BoysinBoo]

Im in,crap i just forgot what i wanted to make

Please don't make crap. ;)

I've got three ideas. Now if I can only sneak $20 out of my wife's purse.

Dollar Tree,

HERE I COME!

[Draik41895]

I got it!!!!!

[Sickie Ickie]

It's not contagious, is it? :p

[Sickie Ickie]

Is the $20 for a single prop, or a scene?

[Spooky1]

Zombie, can you clarify the "One entry per person/per household" rule? Our household has two active members - can both of us submit an entry?

[Zombie-F]

Is the $20 for a single prop, or a scene?

Single item.

Zombie, can you clarify the "One entry per person/per household" rule? Our household has two active members - can both of us submit an entry?

There are to be no more multiple entries from a household. Some valid concerns were brought up with the past few contests, mainly that it doubles a household's chances of winning by allowing multiple entries.

You guys can certainly work on a project together and submit that.

[Mr_Chicken]

Oh, man! I'm so excited!!!
I've been pacing for weeks trying to figure out which of my projects can be done within the budget, and...well, let's just say I got a good one. Watch out everyone!

[Draik41895]

what if i already have the item?what if im using a mold of something i already have? will it original item be count in value?

[Zombie-F]

what if i already have the item?what if im using a mold of something i already have? will it original item be count in value?

Yes the cost of the original piece will be included in the prop's cost. You can't make the mold without the original so the original goes into the cost.

However, let's say you were making molds of a skull and needed four of them for your project... well, you would only need to add the cost of the original piece one time not four times.

[Draik41895]

what if I found it in the middle of the road therefore dont know the price ?

[dave the dead]

what if I found it in the middle of the road therefore dont know the price ?

I don't think a dead cat is an acceptable material, no matter what the cost.....

[BoysinBoo]

I don't think a dead cat is an acceptable material, no matter what the cost.....

Inspiration, yes. Material, no.

[Zombie-F]

what if I found it in the middle of the road therefore dont know the price ?

Then fair market value comes into play. What would you expect to pay for it? Since it's technically used, multiply the approximate value by .3 and you get your item's value.

[BoysinBoo]

Draik,

If you read the discussion thread for last year's $20 and MacGuyver challenges, you'll get the idea. Z-F has done an amazing job of clarifying the rules in those threads.

[Draik41895]

so,i find out what the price would likely be and multiply by .3?If so,that could work

[RoxyBlue]

There are to be no more multiple entries from a household. Some valid concerns were brought up with the past few contests, mainly that it doubles a household's chances of winning by allowing multiple entries.

You guys can certainly work on a project together and submit that.

DAMN, now Spooky1 and I have to get divorced so we can both enter the contest!!!!!:googly:

Okay, seriously now, if I may throw something out for consideration, perhaps another approach to this issue would be to have a rule of "Only one winner per household".

Spooky1 and I were looking forward to working together separately (if that makes sense) on this contest. The idea that doing so would be a means of doubling our chances of winning certainly never crossed our minds.

[beelce]

I'm with you on that point Roxy and Spooky you both contribute together and separately to the forum on a regular basis...

[DarkLore]

lol....I'm in.

[Devil]

This sounds like fun. Being new I have to check my post count..!

[Otaku]

Ah, a quick read of the rules answered my question. Thanks, Z!

[Terrormaster]

What about thrift store items such as clothes? Or what if I have a seven year old shirt in the closet that under normal circumstances (if I weren't a haunter) would have been donated and ended up in a thrift store. Say that shirt originally sold for $30 bucks but would be listed at $4 bucks at the thrift store? What's the real fair market value of that shirt? If I took it out my closet it would go for $10 bucks versus $4 if I bought it at a thrift?

[Don Givens]

I don't think a dead cat is an acceptable material, no matter what the cost.....

Great! Now ya tell me ......... well back to the drawing board.

[Draik41895]

what if its a box that held something?how about sticks?balls from roll-on deodorant?is newspaper or toilet paper times .3 also?

Edit:more specifically a pizza ^

[pyro]

have the names been drawn yet-------------i think im in, ill let you know 3 days before the dead line

[Revenant]

Okay, free or no:

Packing material, like styro-peanuts or bubble wrap scrap. No one actually buys that stuff, they just accumulate it... It's a side effect of having things shipped to you.

[lele]

how about my old clothes? How much should i charge for an old worn shirt that i want to toss in the trash?

[Devils Chariot]

I have a couple questions that have answers somewhere in previous $20 prop contest.

I know if i make a mold, I have to count the cost of the original item and the mold making cost, and casting materials.

Questions:

1. What if is use a skull as a guide, like I have seen others here do, where they wrap it in foil or paper mache and then pull it off and have a hollow skull form. Is that considered the same thing?



2. Also, if I win this contest, am I disqualified for other contests this year, or just next years $20 contest?

[Terrormaster]

Speaking of shipping, what if we need a component from an online vendor, does shipping fees count toward the total?

[Mr_Chicken]

Speaking of shipping, what if we need a component from an online vendor, does shipping fees count toward the total?

I believe the rules say shipping doesn't count.
Ah, yes: "Shipping costs to obtain materials shall not be included in your total cost to build. Feel free to obtain stuff from eBay or online vendors and only count the cost of the item towards the total."

[Draik41895]

Plastic bottle FREE from recycling $ 0.00
Newspaper FREE from recycling $ 0.00
Plastic shopping bags FREE from recycling $ 0.00
Paper mache mix of flour, glue, water, pro-rated mix $ 1.04
Paper mache pulp mix flour, glue, chalk, toilet paper, linseed all are pro-rated mix $ 1.79

would this all still be basically right?

[Zombie-F]

how about my old clothes? How much should i charge for an old worn shirt that i want to toss in the trash?

IF you bought the items at a thrift shop, the thrift shop price applies. IF the clothes are yours, the original price multiplied by .3 rule applies.

I have a couple questions that have answers somewhere in previous $20 prop contest.

I know if i make a mold, I have to count the cost of the original item and the mold making cost, and casting materials.

Questions:

1. What if is use a skull as a guide, like I have seen others here do, where they wrap it in foil or paper mache and then pull it off and have a hollow skull form. Is that considered the same thing?



2. Also, if I win this contest, am I disqualified for other contests this year, or just next years $20 contest?

1. That would be the same as making a mold. You still need the original item to make the copies, so the original item goes into cost.

2. If you win, you will be ineligible to win a prize in the next prop building contest this year. You can enter the next competition after that.

would this all still be basically right?

Yes, your prices would be acceptable.

[Joiseygal]

I think I want to give this a try. So we can make anything, just as long as it is under 20 bucks, right? This sounds like fun!

[Draik41895]

W00T!!!!Free newspaper!!!!

how 'bout the pizza box and deodorant balls?

[Devils Chariot]

What IS the next competition?

[BoysinBoo]

Roxy,

All you have to do is kick Spooky out until the contest is over. He can stay at the Motel 6. Then you will be in different households. Just don't get used to him not being there. LOL!

I'm kidding, of course. You should build the project together. It could be fun. Does it involve paper mache? Think: remake of the pottery scene in ghost.

[Revenant]

Judging from the responses to other questions I'm going to assume open season on the used packing material. It's not even technically part of the finished prop... stuffing a form prior to construction is just sort of a temporary detour on it's way to the trash.

Time to get stuffin'.

[lele]

IF you bought the items at a thrift shop, the thrift shop price applies. IF the clothes are yours, the original price multiplied by .3 rule applies.



i might need a euro/US dollar converter :googly:

[Terrormaster]

ZF what about hair salvaged from another prop or wig? Would that still be 30% the original cost of the original prop? I had a skull that had hair attached back in 2007. I had stripped the hair then to use on a Gemmy skull prop but have since taken it off the skull in 2008 and was gonna use it for something else that I never had time for, so it's sitting around in a bag. What would the value of that hair be? Would that fall under the same rule as molds since technically I would have had to buy the original to begin with?

[RoxyBlue]

Roxy,

All you have to do is kick Spooky out until the contest is over. He can stay at the Motel 6. Then you will be in different households. Just don't get used to him not being there. LOL!

I'm kidding, of course. You should build the project together. It could be fun. Does it involve paper mache? Think: remake of the pottery scene in ghost.


LOL, boys, you're incorrigible:D

Actually, we worked on the Ghoul Hounds together - that was before I was a member, but that was part of what got me interested in joining the Forum....along with all the delightfully wacko people here:)

Now I have to go watch "Ghost".

[Sickie Ickie]

ZF what about hair salvaged from another prop or wig? Would that still be 30% the original cost of the original prop?...

How much can hair for props cost anyway? :eek:

[Mr_Chicken]

So, if I've got an old bed sheet with a foot long rip in the middle, do I really count it as 30%, or...? I mean, there's no way this thing could be sold anywhere, so even 30% seems a tad steep...

[BoysinBoo]

How much can hair for props cost anyway? :eek:

Was just at Dollar Tree. Saw Hair extensions for a dollar! Sounds like a valid price to me.

[Zombie-F]

ZF what about hair salvaged from another prop or wig? Would that still be 30% the original cost of the original prop? I had a skull that had hair attached back in 2007. I had stripped the hair then to use on a Gemmy skull prop but have since taken it off the skull in 2008 and was gonna use it for something else that I never had time for, so it's sitting around in a bag. What would the value of that hair be? Would that fall under the same rule as molds since technically I would have had to buy the original to begin with?
Was just at Dollar Tree. Saw Hair extensions for a dollar! Sounds like a valid price to me.
Yes, that would be a valid price for hair.

Judging from the responses to other questions I'm going to assume open season on the used packing material. It's not even technically part of the finished prop... stuffing a form prior to construction is just sort of a temporary detour on it's way to the trash.

Time to get stuffin'.
W00T!!!!Free newspaper!!!!

how 'bout the pizza box and deodorant balls?

Yes, packing peanuts, pizza boxes, deodorant balls... all free. ANY recycling center would have such things.

So, if I've got an old bed sheet with a foot long rip in the middle, do I really count it as 30%, or...? I mean, there's no way this thing could be sold anywhere, so even 30% seems a tad steep...

Sadly, I don't budge on this 30% of original value rule for very many things. In years past, the things people were considering as "free" were getting more and more ridiculous which forced me to enact this rule to keep people from getting too creative with what's free.

We're talking a bed sheet here... how much is that new? $3 at Wal mart? That comes to $0.90 so I don't think it's going to tip the scales all that much.

[Ghoul Friday]

*gets her popcorn to watch the mayhem*

[RoxyBlue]

What IS the next competition?

Since Spooky1 and I can't participate separately (the haunting equivalent to the marriage penalty we get with taxes), this would actually be very useful information to have. If we had an idea of what other contests were being held between now and the end of the year, it would help us decide how to divvy up our efforts. Not every contest is going to appeal to both of us, and neither of us wants to see the other end up not having a chance to shine as a soloist.

Zombie, do you have perhaps a rough idea of what might be coming down the pike? I know in the past there have been theme contests (tombstones, monster mud, scarecrows) and of course the $20 MacGuyver contest, where certain materials had to be incorporated in the prop.

What say you, Z?

[Draik41895]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Chicken View Post
So, if I've got an old bed sheet with a foot long rip in the middle, do I really count it as 30%, or...? I mean, there's no way this thing could be sold anywhere, so even 30% seems a tad steep...

I would definitely buy that

[Mr_Chicken]

Sadly, I don't budge on this 30% of original value rule for very many things. In years past, the things people were considering as "free" were getting more and more ridiculous which forced me to enact this rule to keep people from getting too creative with what's free.

We're talking a bed sheet here... how much is that new? $3 at Wal mart? That comes to $0.90 so I don't think it's going to tip the scales all that much.

Fair enough. I don't want to cause any problems. I was remembering it being in the $20 range, but perhaps I'm remembering the whole sheet set.
Dang, $3, though...Why is there no Wal Mart near me?!

By the way, thanks a bunch for organizing all this ZF!

Draik, are you buying my argument or my sheet? I'll gladly sell either to you :p

[Draik41895]

I was talking about the sheet,but I buy the argument too

[Sickie Ickie]

I'm too poor to buy an argument. Can I rent one?

[Draik41895]

how about duct tape?if i only use some

[Sickie Ickie]

Prorated, Draik. Take the material you are using, estimate how much you are using, then price only for that much. This goes for paint, tape, glue, shellac, whatever.

[Mr_Chicken]

I'm too poor to buy an argument. Can I rent one?

Sure Sickie, how long do you want it for? I'm sure we can come up with a reasonable rate.

:p

[Sickie Ickie]

My wife guarantees she'll give me several for free regarding my prop making. LOL

Someone on another list suggested calling her Pickie Ickie. LOL

[Haunted Bayou]

UGH, my brain hurts. I always have a difficult time trying to come up with a prop. I ditched a prop a several years ago because I couldn't pull it off. I used make-up for paint...it peeled off and made a mess. Used it as a static prop only once then threw it out.

Maybe I can do an updated version. (It won't have platic legs. LOL!)

[ScareShack]

Very excited to see the contest is here. It's awesome getting to really see the talent and what everyone comes up with.

[Draik41895]

I don't think a dead cat is an acceptable material, no matter what the cost.....

thank you much for posting that,just wait till tomorrow,youll see

[joker]

Is there not a required items list? Just build a prop for less than $20?

[Bloodhound]

I need an idea and $20.00. Hey pyro, Can you help a guy out?

[Terrormaster]

I have an idea just not sure I can do it for $20 bucks especially when one of the items I need is $9 by itself.

Hey ZF, how about a $100 Mega-Prop Challenge? Whats the largest and most bad-assed prop you can build for $100?! Hehe

[Sickie Ickie]

Is there not a required items list? Just build a prop for less than $20?

Yepper. Just build a prop for less than $20.

[joker]

Yepper. Just build a prop for less than $20.

Thanks SI. Guess I was thinking of the MacGuyver Prop contest where certain items had to be used in the construction of the prop.

[RavenLunatic]

If I can get enough posts in, I may actually participate. Still no internet unless I make it to the library. No idea on a project yet, but I'll start thinking. Yeah I know that could be bad...

[Sickie Ickie]

I hope you get to enter, Raven. (BTW the only way I could read your post was to highlight your sentence. You may want to consider a lighter color.)

[Haunted Bayou]

I like this contest too...it is amazing what ideas people come up with.

[Don Givens]

I believe the contest is well structured and I'm confident all the constraints are in place to try and keep things as fair as possible.

It has to be impossible to make rules that satisfy everybody but for future contests I hope you consider Roxy's suggestion of only 1 winner per household rather than one entry.

I know I'm a rookie here and could be totally wrong and making a fool out of myself offering an unrequested opinion. Luckily, I have plenty of experience making a fool of myself so I'm somewhat comfortable in this situation.

I believe two major goals of the contest are to stimulate creativity and generate how to's...... in my opinion, limiting entries does neither.

I think each member should be able to submit an entry. As a matter of fact, I personally wouldn't have an issue with one person submitting multiple entries.

However, like most contests, I do think it reasonable to allow only one prize per household.

Anyway, whatever the rules, I intend to submit an entry and just be happy you offer this contest. Far as I'm concerned, the prizes are a nice bonus but I would be happy if there were no prizes at all and we were just competing for votes from our peers.

Anyway, there is my two cents worth which, if invested at the current rate of inflation, will be worth almost a dollar 100 years from now.

[RoxyBlue]

Anyway, whatever the rules, I intend to submit an entry and just be happy you offer this contest. Far as I'm concerned, the prizes are a nice bonus but I would be happy if there were no prizes at all and we were just competing for votes from our peers.

Well said, Don, and I agree - recognition by my haunting peers (and superiors:D) is really what the contests are all about for me and Spooky1.


...of course, that Mad Scientist costume IS really cool:)

[Terrormaster]

Ok, think this is the last cost question from me... me thinks...

Wal-warts? I have a junk drawer of these things. What do I value one at?

[Devils Chariot]

Ok, think this is the last cost question from me... me thinks...

Wal-warts? I have a junk drawer of these things. What do I value one at?

YEAH WHAT ABOUT THESE? I had a box full them before I even started haunting!

[Revenant]

Yeah I've got like a bazillion of those damn things too... I really need to make some electrical props so I can get rid of them, because I know I'll never throw them away.

[SpookySam]

Usually, I am coasting in neutral about this time of year. All this chatter has gotten me a little bit motivated. Maybe I'll actually put something together this time around.

Like others have said - Thanks to Zombie-F for putting this all together.

[pyro]

how about duct tape?if i only use some
if a roll cost 3.00 and you use 1/2-- thats 1.50---:D

[Draik41895]

thank you

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

This contest is always so much fun..........and always a reminder to finish my taxes so I can play..............now what to make? Gotta go look in the recyle bin. Hmm, what can I make with all these wine & beer bottles? :)

[RoxyBlue]

now what to make? Gotta go look in the recyle bin. Hmm, what can I make with all these wine & beer bottles? :)

A chandelier?:D

[Draik41895]

or a lot of broken glass

[BoysinBoo]

Ok, think this is the last cost question from me... me thinks...

Wal-warts? I have a junk drawer of these things. What do I value one at?

In last year's challenge I found one at Big Lots for $4.49. I used the one in my junk drawer and valued it as $1.50 (based on the 30% rule). Z-F approved that price.

[DarkLore]

Hrumpf.

My opinion for what its worth at 30% - whatever you make, someone else should be able to duplicate from scratch holding a twenty and going shopping. If I can't get the walwart at walmart for $1.50, then its under valued.

Two years ago I tore about 25 feet of my neighbor's fence down and built an electric chair with it. I didn't get it at a store and it didn't cost me a dime. Which one of you people live closest to me?

[Devils Chariot]

Two years ago I tore about 25 feet of my neighbor's fence down and built an electric chair with it. I didn't get it at a store and it didn't cost me a dime. Which one of you people live closest to me?


Hey DarkLore, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!:finger:

[Draik41895]

ok, last question then im set,garage sale items=garage sale prices?

[Sickie Ickie]

same as thrift store price, D

[Revenant]

Awright, that's it. I squandered two nights when I could have got started on this. This weekend, it's on.

[Haunted Bayou]

DarkLore,
Zombie-F made the 30% rule due to the ridiculous stuff people were using and calling it "free" and to keep the playing field kinda even.
Obviously, most people wouldn't have a truckload of free fencing..so that wouldn't be a fair entry. A lot of people have old power-cords lying around from broken equipment or you can get them at a thrift store.

If you look closely at the competition in previous years, the props were amazing, and most people couldn't pull them off for $20. I personally, had my doubts about the amount of money actually put into some of the props.

Most of the $20 props are static, and a few people attempt small animation with the new 30% rule. It kept everything more simplistic and more even for competition. My entry last year was a Blucky in drag, which is more in keeping with the idea of a $20 home-made prop than a flesh-eating-grave-grabbing-zombie-monster that would cost most people $200 in supplies alone.

I understand what you are saying about taking $20 and going to the store but most of us take pride in the fact we found a piece of crap on the side of the road or at the thrift store and turned it into a cool prop for little money.

[Sickie Ickie]

well said, hb

[Bone Dancer]

Very well said, I totally agree. Sometimes I think it's sad there has to be winners.
Just being able to say " See what I made with just junk and a shoe string".

[Sickie Ickie]

That being said...let's keep it a show and tell and send all the prizes to my house! :D

[RoxyBlue]

That being said...let's keep it a show and tell and send all the prizes to my house! :D


Okay, everyone send all their junk and shoestrings to Sickie:D

[Monk]

I'd like to give this a go. Now to find a bank willing to lend me 20 bucks.

[Haunted Bayou]

Don't you know somebody is looking at their shoes right now going......what can I make with a shoestring and this tin can I found at cubies and this nasty old wig from the thrift store?

[RoxyBlue]

Don't you know somebody is looking at their shoes right now going......what can I make with a shoestring and this tin can I found at cubies and this nasty old wig from the thrift store?


Easy - half of a telephone with a handwarmer:googly:

[Adam I]

.....what can I make with a shoestring and this tin can I found at cubies and this nasty old wig from the thrift store?

Howling Rat :D

[RoxyBlue]

Don't you know somebody is looking at their shoes right now going......what can I make with a shoestring and this tin can I found at cubies and this nasty old wig from the thrift store?


a shaggy pendant light fixture

[BoysinBoo]

Hammer the tin can flat. Use it to line the underside of the wig. Tie both ends of the shoestring to the sides of the wig.

Voila!

It's a camoflaged alien brainwave repeller with a chinstrap!

It's just like my tinfoil hat, but with camoflage!

[pyro]

well i think ill get on the band wagon---Z i pull micro wave motors out of micrwave's @ the recycle center-free for me but whats the fair price?

[Dark Angel 27]

hmmm... a contest.....wonder if i should enter.....oh what the hell, okay im in

[GothicCandle]

YAY I've been waiting so long!!!!! I can't wait to get started.

[Spooky1]

well i think ill get on the band wagon---Z i pull micro wave motors out of micrwave's @ the recycle center-free for me but whats the fair price?

Pyro, no making a death ray as a prop!:xbones:

[krough]

hmmm, Interesting

[Draik41895]

I'd like to see what people can make now that almost everything has a price,and the prices are rising

[dave the dead]

I'd like to see what people can make now that almost everything has a price,and the prices are rising

Stick around......

[pyro]

I'd like to see what people can make now that almost everything has a price,and the prices are rising
watch and learn-in about a month your going to see some amazing props

[tcarter]

I don't know, but I need 30 posts so just in case......

[SpookySam]

Uh oh...starting to see too many strong haunters interested now. ummm...wouldn't you rather watch a rerun of House and have a cocktail than actually have to put work into something. Nothing to see here...move along.

Seriously, can't wait to see what people put together.

[Revenant]

I sort of got started tonight. Made a makeshift form to start building on tomorrow. Dunno how far I'll be able to go on this but... hey. I need a new prop or 2 for this year so I might as well get fired up about building... it's March already.

[Haunted Bayou]

I'd like to see what people can make now that almost everything has a price,and the prices are rising

We tend to hoard stuff so most props will probably be built out of last year's leavin's and the year before and the year before.....

(tune of Johnny Cash's "One piece at a time")

"I built it one piece at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime.
You'll know its mine when you walk through my yard.
I'm gonna haunt my yard in style.
I'm gonna scare every little child.
'Cause I'll have the only one there is around"

What the heck is that?

It is a '89 '90 '91 '92 '93 '94 '95 '96 '97 '98 '99 $20 prop":devil:

[Devils Chariot]

hitting OSH tomorrow. Though Watchmen will be stealing 3 hours. Maybe it will gimmie some ideas.

[Draik41895]

are we allowed to post teaser pics?

[Zombie-F]

are we allowed to post teaser pics?

But of course. :)

[Spanky]

I don't think I'm eligable because of the Mcgyver challenge, but what the heck I'm gonna give it a try anyway.

[Draik41895]

heh,heh:D

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/599437/20090308/102932.jpg (http://www.dropshots.com/draik41895#date/2009-03-08/10:29:32)

[dubbax3]

Yeah I'm in this year for sure. I may have some questions come finishing time Zombie-f. I'm close to half way through and I'm about a dollar out of my pocket, besides hot glue. Gotta love recycling bins.

[pyro]

oooooooooooooo a teaser pic already

[pyro]

I don't think I'm eligable because of the Mcgyver challenge, but what the heck I'm gonna give it a try anyway.
you can enter but you cant win

[Fezzek]

Well I'm out. Got the "ooo this would be cool if it had this, okay add that syndrome" while working at 2am. Low and behold I have a great prop for the yard but in the spirit of the contest went waaaaay over budget. Time to dummy it down and start a new one.

[STOLLOWEEN]

I've got a plan..now excuse me while I post this 29 more times so that I'm eligible to enter:jol:

[hpropman]

OK I have an idea for a prop and in will have animation. Now to see how creative I can get to get it under $20. Can you smell the smoke, that's me thinking. LOL Good luck everyone.

[Sickie Ickie]

I've already started. :D

[Draik41895]

i started a few days ago

[Hauntiholik]

Well I'm out. Got the "ooo this would be cool if it had this, okay add that syndrome" while working at 2am. Low and behold I have a great prop for the yard but in the spirit of the contest went waaaaay over budget. Time to dummy it down and start a new one.

Look at it this way Fezzek, you have time to work out the design and you have time to make the minimum number of post to qualify for the contest.

[Revenant]

I got started. Let's see if I can keep the inner dilettante (sp?) squashed down.... and the expenditure too.

[Devils Chariot]

I just started today. I have one primitive mache hand over a wire armature. Watch out!

[Terrormaster]

I've got MOST of the pieces together for mine (glad I cleaned the attic and found all that scrap lumber and plywood the roofers left). Just a few more pieces to find, finalize the design, then start building... Yes, it will be animated!

[Sickie Ickie]

Had to back up a little, take off some pieces and do part of it a little different.

[Spanky]

you can enter but you cant win

Right. Exactly what I said, sorta. :)

[GothicCandle]

I've already started. :D

I'm almost done. I've been working on it non-stop.

[pyro]

well i think ill get on the band wagon---Z i pull micro wave motors out of micrwave's @ the recycle center-free for me but whats the fair price?
Zombie -f --???????????:D $$$$$$ ????????

[Zombie-F]

Zombie -f --???????????:D $$$$$$ ????????

Well, in looking it up, $3 would seem a fair price for a used microwave turntable motor.

[daddywoofdawg]

I looking forward to entering!

[daddywoofdawg]

I have a clearifation question in the rules it says 30 times beteewn march and april 09 or is that you just have to have 30 post total anytime?

[daddywoofdawg]

What about thrift store items such as clothes? Or what if I have a seven year old shirt in the closet that under normal circumstances (if I weren't a haunter) would have been donated and ended up in a thrift store. Say that shirt originally sold for $30 bucks but would be listed at $4 bucks at the thrift store? What's the real fair market value of that shirt? If I took it out my closet it would go for $10 bucks versus $4 if I bought it at a thrift?

I don't make the rules but to me it would seem how much would you pay for it in the thirft store.

[daddywoofdawg]

Don't you know somebody is looking at their shoes right now going......what can I make with a shoestring and this tin can I found at cubies and this nasty old wig from the thrift store?

A wig in a cup!(ball in a cup)

[Draik41895]

I have a clearifation question in the rules it says 30 times beteewn march and april 09 or is that you just have to have 30 post total anytime?

you have to have 3o post to enter,so hurry up:D

[dubbax3]

So what your saying is 30 posts?

(this is one closer to my goal)

[RoxyBlue]

"An entrant MUST have at least 30 new posts on the forums between March 1st, 2009 and April 30th, 2009. That means new people and inactive members must be active on the forums between now and then to be qualified to enter."

Here's the rule for reference - 30 NEW posts between 3/1/09 and 4/30/09. You can start working on the prop while earning your posts - just be sure you have your 30 before 30 April.

Go play some of the games - no problem getting 30 posts quickly there:)

[dubbax3]

hanks with a t

[spideranne]

Yeah!!! I didn't miss it this year! With a crazy work schedule and lots of travel I always seem to log back in right as this is ending. Not this year. No clue what I'm going to make but I'm in.

[Draik41895]

I just need to go to good will real quick and i'll have all my materials

[IshWitch]

Hmmmm, I have had something floaiting around in my head that might just fit this bill!

Let me see what I will need and I just might be in for one of these for once!
;) :D

[heresjohnny]

Hmm, this is one post, just in case.

[beelce]

Yesss...I got a good start tonight

[Sickie Ickie]

Mine is almost done and ready for the touch up stage. :)

[SpookySam]

That smells like bragging, Sickie.

[Sickie Ickie]

That's because...I AM!!! LOL

Last several of these I made it in just under the wire. This time I had an idea and got started early! I'm soooooo proud of myself. heeheeheee

[BoysinBoo]

Hey SI,
Did you use the eyes from Iris on this one?

[Sickie Ickie]

LOL Nope, but that would have been great for continuity, wouldn't it? :D

My son played with those, and now I have no idea where they are!

[Draik41895]

what would the price be for foil from school lunch?and an old broken bottle kinda like this?free if i got it in the recycling?
http://www.toolspot.co.uk/products/Gardening/750Ml%20Plastic%20Water%20Spray%20Bottle_t.jpg

[hedg12]

I've got a plan..now excuse me while I post this 29 more times so that I'm eligible to enter:jol:

I think I may go ahead and enter anyway, although now that Stolloween is in my paper mache idea is right out.:zombie:

I bow to your greatness, Stolloween.

[beelce]

I am about 75% now....Here is a small teaser....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/3-12-2009023a.jpg

[SpookySam]

Ready for paint! Here is a teaser since that seems to be all the rage.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z305/Spooky_Sam/Props/IMG_0282.jpg

[Devils Chariot]

The hardest part is done.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3350232871_deee19006b.jpg

[daddywoofdawg]

I am about 75% now....Here is a small teaser....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/3-12-2009023a.jpg

must be cold outside.LOL

[hpropman]

Maybe we should guess what it is. It could be a contest within the contest!

must be cold outside.LOL
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/3-12-2009023a.jpg

[Bethene]

OMG, I feel like such a slacker, I have not even decided for sure what to make, it is between 2 things, trying to decide what would be better , i better get to it!!

[Sickie Ickie]

Trying to figure out a physics challenge...

[Terrormaster]

Well, I know what I want to do; already sketched a rough design which needs to be revisited and detailed; need to put a parts list together and make sure I'm under budget still.

Once I can get past that, it's time to start! It's time to see how much animation I can pull off for under $20 bucks!

[RavenLunatic]

Nice teaser pics everyone. can't wait to see what you come up with

[Draik41895]

no answer?!?!

[BoysinBoo]

Draik,
I'll give you my 2 cents. The foil is a recyclable (like newspaper), so it's free. The bottle can be bought at the dollar store. So if you use a broken/repurposed one I'd say the salvage rule applies: 33 cents.

[Draik41895]

thanks for the advice,and thanks for the change:D but i would like to be absolutely positive

[Zombie-F]

thanks for the advice,and thanks for the change:D but i would like to be absolutely positive

Draik,

Boys in Boo got it right. Free for the foil and price rule applies to the bottle. :)

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

I gotta decide what to make............must get started...

[Draik41895]

i need to hurry,it seems

[Sickie Ickie]

Ran into another challenge. Oh well. Good thing I got time. :)

[Draik41895]

ok,yarn would be pro rated yes?but if 110 yds =1320 ft,how much would it cost for 2 ft?i tried solving it myself but it comes out to like 0.00341001

[BoysinBoo]

You didn't say how much the total price was, but if that is the math, then normally you would round down from .3 cents to zero, but since you have to assign SOME value, then I'd say just use 1 cent.

[Draik41895]

oh,sorry the total is 1.99.thanks though

[STOLLOWEEN]

Doing the math will definitely be the hardest part for me:confuseton:...I'm starting on my entry tonight...yee haw

[Draik41895]

cuttin my pvc,thats what im doing

[SpookySam]

Well...mine's pretty much finished. Just doing some fine tuning now. We'll see how it measures up.

[krough]

planning thats what im doing

[Spooky1]

I need some nice weather so I can practice with my new Hot Wire Knife outside and not asphyxiate Roxy and myself.

[Beth]

Dang. I haven't been here in a while. I'll have to see if I can come up with something. But, as talented as this gourp is, I would just be an amateur at best!!:D

[Draik41895]

planning thats what im doing

LOL:D

[dave the dead]

laughing at krough's dry wit. that's what I'm doing.

[Draik41895]

I am about 75% now....Here is a small teaser....

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/3-12-2009023a.jpg

is that really an appropriate pic?

[beelce]

What do you think this pic is Draik?.....That's what I'm thinking

[DeathTouch]

Where are all the teaser pics?

[Revenant]

What do you think this pic is Draik?.....That's what I'm thinking
He's an adolescent beelce... ever heard of Rohrshach blots? lol

[beelce]

Yep ....that's what I'm thinking

[Draik41895]

lol,thats pretty much it

[SpookySam]

Here is another teaser...

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z305/Spooky_Sam/Props/IMG_0336.jpg

I just can't help myself.

[pyro]

oooooooo something is corps out or its driftwood

[BoysinBoo]

SS,
I think I've got something like that in the back of my vegetable crisper. It might have been a potato at one point.

[IshWitch]

OMG, I feel like such a slacker, I have not even decided for sure what to make, it is between 2 things, trying to decide what would be better , i better get to it!!

Me too.
If the daughter would just "get off the pot" with her wedding plans my mind could be freed up for this!
:mad:
I have a couple of things in mind but doing a price list before buying. And not buying because of said iron laying in the fire.
grrrrrrrrrrrr

[Terrormaster]

Still tweaking design vs cost list... I'm hovering at $19.50 which doesn't leave me much wiggle room for items I may have overlooked... It's driving nuts cause I'm getting caught in analysis paralysis and I wanna just start.

[Draik41895]

so far mines about 14.56

[dave the dead]

$19.74 and almost done except some very minor paint touch-ups.

[Terrormaster]

Ok, say I make a mache skull and use a balloon for the initial base. Do I include the cost of the balloon per the molding rules? What's an acceptable price for a single round balloon these days?

Also, what's the going rate for a single wire coathanger I scavenged from my closet?

[krough]

Interesting
Here is another teaser...

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z305/Spooky_Sam/Props/IMG_0336.jpg

I just can't help myself.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

great teasers!!!

[slightlymad]

Guess i better get my but in gear always seem to go over in the end and disqualify myself

[beelce]

OK....here is another teaser...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/20-09-13.jpg

[Bone Dancer]

I think you guys are having as much fun with the teaser pics as you are with making the projects.

[krough]

What the Heck? A drift boat?

OK....here is another teaser...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/beelce/20-09-13.jpg

[Draik41895]

any prize updates yet?

[Bethene]

I think I know the answer to this, but am asking to double check, I bought something at salvation army to use, is that allowed?, and of course, use the cost of that toward my total.

[pyro]

I think I know the answer to this, but am asking to double check, I bought something at salvation army to use, is that allowed?, and of course, use the cost of that toward my total.
yes

[hlmn]

must... post.... more....

[krough]

Me to

[pyro]

must... post.... more....
go ...... play......games
go .... say...hi's &happy birthday

[slightlymad]

Gotta brain storm gotta dig threw the bin

[Terrormaster]

Ok, reboot time - that design didn't work. Gotta try something else.

[Lilly]

Wasn't sure if i was going to enter..
I got some inspiration from an outsider..
so made my entry, cut my stuff couple days ago .. today it is done.
teaser pic
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/09%20Hallo%20props/coffincover2crop.jpg

[Sickie Ickie]

I would be done or close to it if I wasn't !$!@#%$#% sick. :(

[Draik41895]

i should be done soon,i finally got my dad to cut my pvc,but im sick too...ill probably need a few more days

[pyro]

hey lilly cant see what it is --you know you should clean your deck ;)

[hpropman]

sorry to hear that you guys are feeling sick. I hope you feel better soon.

[beelce]

Lilly's must be "The Fence of Death"

[Devils Chariot]

I have a question. What if I have a can of Cap'n Shiny Ricks matte black spray paint, made with coal from diamons mines, and it has microscopic diamonds in it, and it makes the cost $100 ca can, however, it doesn't work any better than $2.50 a can black spray paint. DO I have to go buy the $2.50 can of spray paint? or can I use what I HAVE ON HAND, but just cost it for the generic item from the store?

Lemme know before I paint!

[Devils Chariot]

One more question:

I always buy something from michael's when i get thier 50% 0ff coupon or I am going by (like to Target to pick prescription). SO if I get some celluclay with this ubiquotious coupon can i price it with the discount?

[Devils Chariot]

Here's my teaser:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3377439057_e5b58931d1.jpg

[dave the dead]

Looking good there DC!
I'll field the celluclay question...yes, you can use the coupon discount to price the celluclay.

[GothicCandle]

I built the prop, but i don't think it will win so i started a new one. How much would a 20 somthing year old volley ball that i found in the ivy in my back yard be? It been partly eaten by worms.

[Draik41895]

uh,worms eat dirt not balls

[Hauntiholik]

uh,worms eat dirt not balls

Some volleyballs are made of leather. Leather is made of cow hide. Cow hide is skin.

Do you ever think as a hearse goes by,
that you may be the next to die?
They wrap you up in a big white sheet
From your head down to your feet.
They put you in a big black box,
And cover you up with dirt and rocks.
All goes well for about a week,
Then your coffin begins to leak.
The worms crawl in, the worms crawl out,
The worms play pinochle on your snout.
They eat your eyes, they eat your nose,
They eat the jelly between your toes.
A big green worm with rolling eyes,
Crawls in your stomach and out your eyes.
Your stomach turns a slimy green,
And pus pours out like whipping cream.
You spread it on a slice of bread,
And that's what you eat when you are dead.

[RoxyBlue]

How much would a 20 somthing year old volley ball that i found in the ivy in my back yard be? It been partly eaten by worms.

If the worms say it's recyclable, then it's free:googly::D


Haunti, I had no idea those were all the lyrics to that song:eek: EEEWWWW!!!

[Draik41895]

oh,that makes sence

[Zombie-F]

I just updated the prize listing... there will be more to come. :)

[http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=15134]Rules and Updated Prize Listing[/url]

[Devils Chariot]

I have a question.

What if I have a can of Cap'n Shiny Ricks matte black spray paint, made with coal from diamond mines, and it has microscopic diamonds in it, and it makes the cost $100 ca can, however, it doesn't work any better than $2.50 a can black spray paint. DO I have to go buy the $2.50 can of spray paint? or can I use what I HAVE ON HAND, but just cost it for the generic item from the store since the brand isn't important?

Lemme know before I paint!

[BoysinBoo]

uh,worms eat dirt not balls

Don't do it Sickie. Resist!

[BoysinBoo]

I have a question.

What if I have a can of Cap'n Shiny Ricks matte black spray paint, made with coal from diamond mines, and it has microscopic diamonds in it, and it makes the cost $100 ca can, however, it doesn't work any better than $2.50 a can black spray paint. DO I have to go buy the $2.50 can of spray paint? or can I use what I HAVE ON HAND, but just cost it for the generic item from the store since the brand isn't important?

Lemme know before I paint!

Deja Vu?

[Devils Chariot]

yep. I need an answer! :)

[daddywoofdawg]

OK here's mine if it's a prop accessory like a fog chiller or something do you count the fog machine in the price even though the fog machine isn't the prop?

[Sickie Ickie]

we'll have to wait for the official verdict on that, however my two cents would be no. You would have a picture of your accessory, maybe a movie of how your accessory works.

[spokanejoe]

OK! I went thru my recyclables and thought...I might as well go "green" while trying to stay below $20. I like paper mache so, A little glue and tape and paint wont add up to too much. It will be interesting to see how well I can do with what some might consider waste. This is going to be fun

[Zombie-F]

I have a question.

What if I have a can of Cap'n Shiny Ricks matte black spray paint, made with coal from diamond mines, and it has microscopic diamonds in it, and it makes the cost $100 ca can, however, it doesn't work any better than $2.50 a can black spray paint. DO I have to go buy the $2.50 can of spray paint? or can I use what I HAVE ON HAND, but just cost it for the generic item from the store since the brand isn't important?

Lemme know before I paint!

That's sort of like saying "I have a Bucky skull on hand but want to cost it out as though I have a BLucky skull to use." So, you will have to go get the $2.50 spray paint if that's how you want to apply it's cost.

[Zombie-F]

OK here's mine if it's a prop accessory like a fog chiller or something do you count the fog machine in the price even though the fog machine isn't the prop?

My past judgments on similar props/accessories was that if it needs something else in order to "work" then that something else needs to be included in the cost.

[Devils Chariot]

That's sort of like saying "I have a Bucky skull on hand but want to cost it out as though I have a BLucky skull to use." So, you will have to go get the $2.50 spray paint if that's how you want to apply it's cost.

(sighs) apple barrel paints it is. :(

[Draik41895]

okay, sweats that i bought at a thrift store and used for me,and now wish to use for my prop.thrift store price and salvage?(i hope so)

[beelce]

OK....My family had an antique gold plated 2"x 4", incrusted with diamonds and other really precious stones that depicted Michael Angelo's mural in the Sistine Chapel on it. But I gave it to my friend who needed the 2"x4". He used an axe and chopped off all the old gold and stuff so he could use some of the wood.
Well, he had a 3 foot long piece left over and sold it to me for $1. The thing is, I only need to use a 1 foot piece of the 2"x4"....sooooo does that mean that I can pro rate it for 33 cents? I really really hope so cuse I really really need it to finish my $20 prop for less than $20 and right know the total cost of my $20 prop is $6.87...please help I need an answer soon!!!!
Also...do I have to include the full cost of my of cat....cause I used a whole lot of cat hair for my prop, and she was one of those really expensive type of cats.

[Draik41895]

not realy sure but i think the cat would be free

[Devils Chariot]

Beelce are you mocking me?:confused:

[Sickie Ickie]

All in good fun, DC. I think good natured teasing ismore like it. heh

[Devils Chariot]

I know Sickie, maybe I need to be more over the top in my replies. ZOMG I can has applebarrelz 2!!! :):D:cool:;) (just need to strike the right tone online).

I think it was a good question too.: If I have krylon do i have to go buy OSH store brand. I mean as far as how-to side of this contest, if your just gonna say flat black spraypaint in the end, can't you cost it to that, instead of the fancy national brand name can your GF picked for you. Stoopid "designer enamel".:mad:

sigghhhhhhh. I'll let it go.

[RoxyBlue]

OK....My family had an antique gold plated 2"x 4", incrusted with diamonds and other really precious stones that depicted Michael Angelo's mural in the Sistine Chapel on it. But I gave it to my friend who needed the 2"x4". He used an axe and chopped off all the old gold and stuff so he could use some of the wood.
Well, he had a 3 foot long piece left over and sold it to me for $1. The thing is, I only need to use a 1 foot piece of the 2"x4"....sooooo does that mean that I can pro rate it for 33 cents? I really really hope so cuse I really really need it to finish my $20 prop for less than $20 and right know the total cost of my $20 prop is $6.87...please help I need an answer soon!!!!
Also...do I have to include the full cost of my of cat....cause I used a whole lot of cat hair for my prop, and she was one of those really expensive type of cats.

LMAO!!!!! I think I'm in love with you:googly:

(If you're reading this, Spooky1, I'm just kidding:googly:)

DC, glad to see you're a good sport.

[dave the dead]

Don't feel bad DC...I put myself in a situation with a prop that will keep me from entering...but really shouldn't. I almost completed my prop, and had a total of $19.74...then decided that I really hated the paintjob...I mean REALLY hated it. I had to go back and reapply another basecoat to recover, and the double painting puts me over budget. If I had nailed it from the beginning, there would have been no problem, but the added expense is just too much. If I were to write this as a how-to, I wouldn't include the step of "paint this thing really bad, then start over"...so as a how-to it would be feasible to keep it under $20 , but the way I did it I blew it....

Oh well...still time to make something else.

[Draik41895]

DC,you might have been better off pretending you went to the store,but you already asked the question

[BoysinBoo]

Hey Dave,
I would say that if you are completely covering the old paintjob, then you shouldn't have to include the cost of the covered up portion. I mean the spirit of the competition is that someone could conceivably re-create your prop using a $20 budget. If the first coat never existed, would your prop be the same? If so then I say ignore the oops.

[Draik41895]

any body got an answer for my question?

okay, sweats that i bought at a thrift store and used for me,and now wish to use for my prop.thrift store price and salvage?(i hope so)

[beelce]

DC and SI....Yes of course it all in good natured fun....I just wanted to have a little fun with the distortions in the system...
Roxie...glad you LYAO, but I will always love Spooky1
DtD....I agree with BnB....I think only one paint job should be charged to your prop....unless!?!? ...you really just wanted to make something else

[Devils Chariot]

Alright that cuts it. I will be photographing all the brown label products I had to go buy to paint/build this thing. I hope your all happy :( !

Luckily Dave, I haven't painted him yet. Whew! I agree with Beelce and BoysinBoo, first coat isn't needed, doesn't change the look or feel, can't be seen, so I say it doesn't count.

and to Beelce I know your kidding, but I wonder if people know when I am kidding. Sometimes I can be a little too deadpan.

I got $5 left in my budget (after michaels discounts) so I just want to get as much as I can for it.

[Spanky]

Draik, I belive it is the price you paid at the thrift store.