Language Issue

[Zombie-F]

A forum member here has brought it to my attention that he/she feels that the amount of "bad language" floating around on the forums of late has started to increase and that it sort of hurts the Halloween image.

We do have members as young as 13 here and while I think it's probably nothing they haven't heard (or even said) before themselves, it raises the question "Should I turn the Forums' word censor on?"

I'm looking for some input from everyone on this, so feel free to toss in your $0.02 on this issue. You can also anonymously vote in the poll attached to this thread if you don't wish to publicly let your feelings be known.

It's my personal feeling that we don't need it... we are all our own self-censors and anything we say only stands to hurt our own image and not the overall image of the Halloween community. I also believe that anyone that already looks negatively upon the Halloween community (of which we are only a small part of) will do so regardless of whether or not we use dirty language.

In the future, it is possible that I will be able to let each individual member turn the word censor on or off for themselves, but at present it's a global setting that I either turn on or off for everyone.

[krypt]

I wanna post somthing i just dont want it to sound like im a hyprocrit. I use alot a bad language myself.

[HibLaGrande]

With a little imagination I could still make a bikers cringe and sailors blush, and never trip the word censor.Although I do try to keep my languge in check, sometimes the simple four letter words are a much better alternative than some of the stuff I can spew out.:D

[krypt]

We do have mixed company here though. Might make some feel uncomfortable.

[dougspaulding]

With a little imagination I could still make a bikers cringe and sailors blush...:D

Well, I'm a sailor and I don't swear! It's just never been one of my vices (not to worry - I've got plenty of others:devil:), however, swearing doesn't really offend me, even if those doing so are trying to compensate for something else, but I digress.

[krypt]

Well, I'm a sailor and I don't swear! It's just never been one of my vices (not to worry - I've got plenty of others:devil:), however, swearing doesn't really offend me, even if those doing so are trying to compensate for something else, but I digress.


Well i did't mean to sound like every other word that comes out of my mouth is swearing, but i do use them. I totaly agree with the compensate for somthing else though. Like no vocab.

[strange1]

I'm not a fan of censorship.
And I'm certainly not a boyscout.
In my 58 years I've heard it all from little old ladies to kids.
I believe that sometimes you need to use strong language to make a strong point.
Needless to say I have been known to let fly with such language.:D
I try to watch when and where I use it though, its too easy for people to sue over something that offends them.:mad:

The thing that bothers me about such language is I've heard it used in front of little kids for no other purpose other than to just say it.
The boss where I work uses it like it is just another word no matter who is present, customers, kids, women, etc.
But he tells the rest of us to watch our language in front of women and kids or he will chew our butts.

It seems to me that this language has become so common place that people don't even realize what they are saying.
I've heard 8 year old kids use this language, they say they have heard it before and figure it is O.K. to use it themselves since everyone else does it.

Its in the movies, on the web, on the streets, and at home.
Where do you draw the line?
I personally don't know.
Four letter words don't offend me, I'm too old for that.:)
Besides I've done it so many times myself.

Maybe it is the way I was brought up.
I believe there is a time and place for everything.
It just makes me wonder whats going on when I hear little kids cuss each other out, and I wonder what the world has come to.

As for the language on this forum, it doesn't bother me.
I feel each one of us are grown people with ideas to express and sometimes the language is called for.
I do like the idea of self sensorship, the people here are intelligent people, so over all sensorship in my opinion is unnessary.

[DeathTouch]

Honor system has always worked. If someone doesn't honor it then kick them to the curb. Will the sensor ship show the site down? If not to much, I guess it wouldn't hurt.

[Michigal]

I'm told by my husband I swear like a wounded pirate. But when I post something, I usually don't use that language. But there may be a time it's appropriate to use a four letter word.
I agree self-censorship is the best. So I say no, don't turn it on. And guys, even though we're mixed company, don't hold it against me. :p

Sue

P.S.
A lot of sites have a minimum age to join. Perhaps that would be a better way to go. Minimum age of 13 is good.

[Blackwidow]

I'm told by my husband I swear like a wounded pirate. But when I post something, I usually don't use that language...


It's the same for me :)
I don't think censorship is necessary either and I agree that having a minimum age requirement is a good idea.

[dougspaulding]

I totaly agree with the compensate for somthing else though. Like no vocab.

Exactly!

[krypt]

I agree with the right time and place like smashing finger nail with hammer......i see words flying mandatory, But im not saying anyones wrong b/c censorship is never a good thing. But we do have some young ones on forum also so.........

[dougspaulding]

I agree with the right time and place.........

That reminds me of one episode of The Andy Griffith Show when Barney, while trying to cross the street, meets a truck which can't stop in time, and runs up on his foot. After the driver backs off his foot and gets out, Barney is yelling at him in short, truncated spurts, then turns to young Opie, and says "You better go inside Op - you're crampin' my language!"

Time and a place? I guess so.

[Sinister]

however, swearing doesn't really offend me, even if those doing so are trying to compensate for something else, but I digress.

You have known me for YEARS, do you think I'm trying to compensate for something, O best friend of mine, or that I can't articulate any point I have to bring across without the use of "Foul Language"? Rubbish! This may be true of some people, but you know and everyone here knows that this doesn't apply in some cases, and I am one of those.

What I do find hard to believe is that someone who so advocates a holiday that has had it's share of staunch opponents, would get so offended by someone's use of the word "Fuck," or any other word to that end. I NEVER use words that are solely used to demean women. I abhor the use of the dreaded "C" word as this word is meant to hurt and degrade, nothing more.

As for my own use of expletives, I just like to do so. End of story.

So, does anyone else have something they would like to *BEEP* about?

[krypt]

You have known me for YEARS, do you think I'm trying to compensate for something, O best friend of mine, or that I can't articulate any point I have to bring across without the use of "Foul Language"? Rubbish! This may be true of some people, but you know and everyone here knows that this doesn't apply in some cases, and I am one of those.

What I do find hard to believe is that someone who so advocates a holiday that has had it's share of staunch opponents, would get so offended by someone's use of the word "Fuck," or any other word to that end. I NEVER use words that are solely used to demean women. I abhor the use of the dreaded "C" word as this word is meant to hurt and degrade, nothing more.

As for my own use of expletives, I just like to do so. End of story.

So, does anyone else have something they would like to *BEEP* about?

No one is saying that you are a hillbilly "God we know how you feel about rednecks" or not Intelligent. Might be looked at as manors or respect point of veiw though. Please dont slam me about the redneck and hillbilly thing. :::::::cringes:::::::

[claymud]

I want to say... leave for two days and jez all kinds of censership stuff and swearing is a big deal :rolleyes: . Let me say this Swearing is not a big deal, at least I don't see it that way, their just words. Some people may find them offensive but why? Its like crying over spilt milk... which I now do because apperently it gives you prostate cancer... Anyway it makes me no never mind because its just a ground of words, nothing more.

[dougspaulding]

...their just words.

Right. They're nothing more than gutteral utterings, a vibration of the vocal cords, a reverberation within the voicebox.

The only real issue is why do some folks use nothing but swears.

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

I don't think word censorship is necessary. I'm an old bat, heard the words; use 'em myself on occasion. My only offense to words are those used to degrade others. I know there are teens in the forum but they probably have already been long exposed to the language seen here and are not affected one way or the other.

[Sinister]

No one is saying that you are a hillbilly "God we know how you feel about rednecks" or not Intelligent. Might be looked at as manors or respect point of veiw though. Please dont slam me about the redneck and hillbilly thing. :::::::cringes:::::::

Where's that wet noodle I keep handy around here? It's high time someone taught Krypt about his place in the pecking order! :D

I understand where you're coming from, and I agree that this is probably very well the issue some one has. However, I'm not going to change the way I post for nothing or nobody. I don't go out of my way to offend, and if someone has an issue with me, please feel free to PM me about it. I promise I won't bite any heads off. :D

[Dr Morbius]

What th f***?! If I want to f******* say whatever I feel like,I sure as s*** will! Anyone who says we should cencor is an A**Hole! S***! C***suc*** Halloween haters..that's some ****ed up s***! pis*** me off! Mother f***!

I say we can censor ourselves..leave the s*** off.

[TipoDeemin]

Doc just made the point I wanted to make, but I'll repeat it, anyhow. ;) Even with a censor on, it's still pretty clear what's being said. And as Hib said earlier, you can offend pretty well without needing to even use a single "curse word." Censoring someone that feels they need to swear every other word is, in my opinion, just as silly as making the infamous 10 Dirty Words 9/10's of your vocabulary.

And if you're worried about offending the ladies, well, I don't think that's going to be a problem. I enjoy a well-placed swear just as much as the next gal.

[HalloweenRick]

I'm a God Fearing Republican from the South. Just had to vote yes on this. PUT DECENCY BACK IN UNPLEASANT STREET!! AND VOTE FOR THE "NO VACANCY" TOMBSTONE NEXT $20 PROP CHALLENGE!!!
Hee Hee
Rick

[Dr Morbius]

I'm a God Fearing Republican from the South. Just had to vote yes on this. PUT DECENCY BACK IN UNPLEASANT STREET!! AND VOTE FOR THE "NO VACANCY" TOMBSTONE NEXT $20 PROP CHALLENGE!!!
Hee Hee
Rick

I think your outvoted. I think UP St. IS pretty decent.

[strange1]

A Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

A Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe there should be a rule for that?:(
Poor bastard.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

So krypto, you pick your nose or what ever?

Sorry for all the intense questions lately,
I'm writing a small story for a Halloween blog about insane Halloween people.
You mind if I call you? What's your number?







Just kidding.....No blog....All BullShit....Insanity...well, you'll have to decide.

[krypt]

So krypto, you pick your nose or what ever?

Sorry for all the intense questions lately,
I'm writing a small story for a Halloween blog about insane Halloween people.
You mind if I call you? What's your number?







Just kidding.....No blog....All BullShit....Insanity...well, you'll have to decide.


as much as i get bored during the day .......ill call ....convo starts ....are you sitting down this is gonna take a few HOURS! lol it all started way back when..........

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Guess what?

DT's club is looking for a President.

[krypt]

Guess what?

DT's club is looking for a President.

Sorry i am already pres. ......missed out huh?

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Run for the seat and I'l vote for you!

Well maybe, cash is good?

BTW, Pres of what?

[krypt]

Run for the seat and I'l vote for you!

Well maybe, cash is good?

BTW, Pres of what?


Vote for what? The crazy club of course.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Vote for what? The crazy club of course.
No silly, voting for you as the President of the DT "something" club.

You are now so perfect! King of Ciaos! The Keeper of Clutter...
Queen of Kings?:eek: ........need I go on?

[krypt]

No silly, voting for you as the President of the DT "something" club.

You are now so perfect! King of Ciaos! The Keeper of Clutter...
Queen of Kings?:eek: ........need I go on?

Thats Pres. OF Chaos and Mahem......

[Mollins]

whoever said that they find that 'the c word is' only ever used in a derogatory sense, I'm going to have to disagree.

Living in Scotland the word 'Cunt' is used all the time, and most of the time it is in a non-derogatory sense. For instance, one of my friends lee was introducing me to a new person and reffered to me as a 'sound cunt', to everyone I know this isnt seen as an insult, but as a simple term, It could be though of course, It could just be that the word seems to only ever roll off of the Scottish tongue with such ease, and sounding so not out of place :\

[Sinister]

I said the "c" word is used only in a derogatory sense. I don't know how shit goes down over there in Scotland, but you try using the word over here in America, especially in mixed company and see what the reaction will be. Women here do not find that term amusing in the least.

Incidentally, welcome back Mollins. Long time, no see. ;)

[Brad Green]

The sight that I used to frequent had a raging debate over censorship, and where it would ultimately lead on the expression of ideas in posts. Given a choice, I'd prefer it if we were allowed to police our own actions here. Ultimately Zombie, it's your site and your choice, but I think you and the moderators have done a fine job so far without the aid of a profanity filter.

[Zombie-F]

To be honest, this is kind of a moot point now. The users have spoken and they've put forth a resounding "no" to the censorship issue. Therefore, I am declaring this topic closed.