Tournament de Tombstone Discussion

[Zombie-F]

This is the thread for the discussion of our second challenge for the year 2006... the Tournament de Tombstone. The focus of this contest is building a tombstone.

I'm looking for some input as to what rules and guidelines we should have for this one. I'm thinking a price limitation, maybe a size limitation and possibly one other limitation to make this a bit of a challenge.

Jeff has also offered to donate another prize for this one. Do we want to do this one for a prize, or just limit that to the $20 Challenge (which will be repeated again next year)?

Feel free to post all your thoughts and ideas and then I'll formulate the rules thread on April 15th. This thread will remain open through the duration of the contest much like the thread for the $20 Prop Challenge thread did.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I like prizes!

[grim reaper]

sounds fun i better get ready to make

[Zombie-F]

Epitaphs or not could be a rule.

Could be. I'd be inclined to go with no epitaphs... see who can impress everyone the most with an epitaph-free tombstone. Any thoughts?

[Zombie-F]

Sounds good. About the price though paint can get a little bit expensive.
Remember, paint will be pro-rated just like in the last challenge. So you only add the amount of paint you actually use to your total.

[krypt]

I understand paint being prorated, but spray paint is hard to tell how much is left.....It is for me anyway. Oh is ok to make whole tombstone from wood?

[HibLaGrande]

home made and no cost restriction.:D

[sgtdrpepper]

You might have catagories and have cost differ based on catagory. Like standard, Obelisk, or monument.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I don't think catagories would be a good direction to go.
No epitaphs is good.

[DeathTouch]

You might want to clarify if it can be a monument or tombstone or headstone etc. There are a few differences. Maybe you could add a few points if your tombstone makes reference to Unpleasant Street. LOL.

You know me I have already been working on mine. It might not win but at least I have a tombstone built.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I'm looking foward to making one. I haven't made one in 4 yrs.
I still have 4 (4x8) sheets of 4" styro still in storage from 4 yrs. ago.
I could almost build a crypt out of them.

[Zombie-F]

Ok, we'll make it a straight-up standard tombstone contest... no obelisks, crypts, monuments, etc... just standard tombstones.

How about a size restriction? Like say, no taller than 36"?

[krypt]

Whats width gonna be?

[Zombie-F]

Whatever you like. I think width will be a "self-controlling" sort of thing as a tombstone that's too wide may look a little bit ridiculous.

[krypt]

Well i have an idea for a short wide one i dunno what they are called but il find a pic of one. I have seen in graveyard.

[DeathTouch]

Yea, and you can't use yourr winning prop as a tombstone. Don't dress stumpy as a tombstone and enter that. That is just no fair. LOL.

[krypt]

Yea, and you can't use yourr winning prop as a tombstone. Don't dress stumpy as a tombstone and enter that. That is just no fair. LOL.


LOL

[DeathTouch]

I was planning on using this design. Is this ok for size?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/lovermonkey/Halloween/georgewildefield.jpg

[Zombie-F]

Sure, as long as it'll be shorter than 36". For photos of the tombstones, I'll want at least one photo with a ruler or tape measure to show the height. That photo must show the ENTIRE TOMBSTONE and the ruler/tape measure in the same shot.

[HalloweenRick]

Personally, I'd love to see a "NO VACANCY" tombstone contest...

[DeathTouch]

Can I get you to raise to limit to 42 inches?

[krypt]

Can there be any animation!

[Bone Dancer]

seperate static from animated?

[Zombie-F]

No animation. This is going to be a straight tombstone competition. I kind of want to see what kind of great designs some of you can come up with without the use of gimmicks or epitaphs.

Though, now that I'm thinking of it... maybe epitaphs should be included if you guys want to.

[krough]

Does it have to be a stone? How about a marker? not all of the things used to mark a burial location are made of stone. Im curious as to why a height limitation? if there is a dollar limitation it indirectly affects the height anyway.

I would vote for no height limit.

So no electricity at all? How about light?

[krypt]

Though, now that I'm thinking of it... maybe epitaphs should be included if you guys want to.

Thats completely up to you your the final decision on the rules, But dont let the lettering and and names make or break a vote. Curious about no lights like krough and halloweenrick mentioned also......can it be made of wood instead foam? Im having probs finding foam.

[krough]

In my humble opinion, too many rules are a bad thing.
One of the nice things about the 20$ challenge was that there was but 1 rule 20$ or less in parts.
I think by having less rules there would potentially be more creativity. As we saw in the 20$ challenge, there was a wide variety of prop types submitted.
Thats my opinion take it for what its worth.

[Lotus]

as long as it'll be shorter than 36".

Can we raise the limit to 47" plz :D

[Dr Morbius]

What kind of tombstone has no epitaph? I had a great idea, but I have to lose it if no electricity is involved. I mean, how many ways can you make a tombstone? If they are all static with no writing? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the challenge. ( Happens to me all the time!):D Also, who doesn't like prizes?

[DeathTouch]

Well those goes my idea for an interactive pinwheel tomstone with the light on the back. Ok, about 48 inch max? You want to say yes Zombie. Just say yes. Please...

You can't promote a contest with only a 36 inch length. It is un-american.

[Dr Morbius]

I think I understand this now...This challenge is about tombstone design.. not effects. Interesting. I would surely fail. I might have to sit this one out, but who knows. I might come up with some thing...might. I'm just not good at this kind of prop making. We'll see.

[Zombie-F]

All one really has to do is do a google image search for tombstones and look at some of the real ones that are out there to find a nice design to work from. It doesn't have to be an original design.

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

I like the idea of cost limitation as not everyone has the same amount of dispensable income. It levels the playing field and stimulates the imagination.

[krough]

I think I understand this now...This challenge is about tombstone design.. not effects. Interesting. I would surely fail. I might have to sit this one out, but who knows. I might come up with some thing...might. I'm just not good at this kind of prop making. We'll see.


I think I'll be sitting this one out as well. I am not a tombstone designer, but I am a prop builder (or so I think).

[Dr Morbius]

All one really has to do is do a google image search for tombstones and look at some of the real ones that are out there to find a nice design to work from. It doesn't have to be an original design.


That helps..It might be do-able afterall. I should try, after all, it's good to expand ones horizons. I just wish I could throw in a special effect..Not animated, although it would really be cool to see rocking, or splitting tombstones, but lighting effects would be nice to include.

[Blackwidow]

I don't think the contest should be limited to strictly foam. I've got leftovers but some folks may not and wouldn't want to buy a whole sheet of it just for one tombstone.
It doesn't matter to me whether we do epitaphs or not...maybe leave it up to the individual whether they want to add one? Also, I'm not crazy about the idea of a limitation on the height but will go with whatever Zombie says.
I do agree that the contest shouldn't include obelisks and monuments, etc.
One more thing...can we use any type of materials to embellish the tombstones? (plaster cupids for ex.)

[DeathTouch]

I agree with blackwidow except for the height thing. I think there should be a limit but 36 inches? Most people can't see that from the road. That is why 42 inches is best. That is what I suggest anyway.

[Zombie-F]

I only chose 36" as a size because it's a fairly typical size I've seen in real tombstones... but yeah, I can up that to 42".

So here's what we're doing so far...


Height limited to 42"
Price limit yet to be determined
Tombstones only... no obelisks, monuments, crypts, etc.


Make it out of whatever materials you can... wood, foam, concrete... whatever.

I will have a price cap on it though to keep the playing field level... a person with lots of money to blow could certainly come up with a better stone than a person with little money.

My feeling on the epitaphs is I want people to vote solely based on the appearance/design of the stone and not who came up with the most clever epitaph. However, I can see where the epitaph could be part of the design (like maybe a clever way of positioning/carving the epitaph), so I'll leave that up to the stone's creator whether or not to use one.

Now, does a price cap in the $25 - $30 dollar range sound reasonable?

[DeathTouch]

Sounds good. Point taken.

[mikeq91]

This sounds cool... enough rules to make it fair without limiting creativity. As for the epitaphs, it seems like a lot of people like the idea, so how about we have a separate little contest for the best epitaph. There doesn't have to be a prize or anything, but just another way for people to show their creativity.

I'm looking forward to the contest now becuase I can finally put my Hot Wire Foam Factory tools to work!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I think we need a rule for this "Hot Wire Foam Factory tools".
To keep this fair, we should only be able to use a torch! LOL

[mikeq91]

lol, well they will balance out my extreme lack of artistic talent. You should have seen the hack job I did on styrofoam rocks before i got them!

[krough]

going to 30 bucks would be cool

[heresjohnny]

Well, I'm a little disappointed to read the rules after thinking about what a good entry would be, mine was going to include animation. Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't get the difference between a monument, and obelisk and a tombstone. I mean, where does one end and the other begin? Clarification on that would help, not in the rules, just as a reply to this thread (I hate too many rules). And I have to voice my request to allow animation! But I will likely enter regardless, I enjoy these contests.

[Dr Morbius]

I've been searching for tombstone pictures, and I think I have a pretty good idea of what I want to copy...er compile from those images..It still isn't going to be easy. I have no HOT tools...I guess I'll just have to improvise. I am really nervous about this one. Uncharted territory.:eek:

[Dr Morbius]

Well, I'm a little disappointed to read the rules after thinking about what a good entry would be, mine was going to include animation. Maybe I'm dumb, but I don't get the difference between a monument, and obelisk and a tombstone. I mean, where does one end and the other begin? Clarification on that would help, not in the rules, just as a reply to this thread (I hate too many rules). And I have to voice my request to allow animation! But I will likely enter regardless, I enjoy these contests.

I second that! Allow Animations/effects! Anyone else want these?

[krypt]

is it going to be ok if i make out of concrete?

[Frighteners Entertainment]

is it going to be ok if i make out of concrete?
well I gotta say, you've now entered the "you scare me club" along with DT! :eek:

[krypt]

well I gotta say, you've now entered the "you scare me club" along with DT! :eek:

Hey do it right the first time you know...im gonna use my name also so i will be set when the time comes...just joking serious about making from concrete though.......sorry dissregard i saw in other post make out of what ever ......sorry again

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Hey whatever, you're still in the club!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

a quote from Revenge of the Nerds?

[Dr Morbius]

Does anyone feel there should be animation/effects allowed? I have heard alot of concerns on chat today that animation/effects should be included. I know, Zombie has posted the rules, and I think he is adamant about no gimmicks, but I am still curious about how y'all feel about it.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I would think that it depends on whether you'll be submitting a project?
If you are ,then it should be disallowed!!! LOL

[Dr Morbius]

I would think that it depends on whether you'll be submitting a project?
If you are ,then it should be disallowed!!! LOL

LOL! I'll take that as a compliment..

No seriously, I have heard from at least 5 other people who would want it.

[krough]

You know my thoughts on that Dr M. I think the less rules the better.
I would prefer if the rules were more open. But I can compete as they currently stand.

[Dr Morbius]

I'm not saying no rules..I was just curious how many others wanted to expand the rules to include animation/effects..that's all.

[Zombie-F]

I'm trying to do this so I can challenge you into making some tombstones that are a little less typical in shape and design that what we normally see, but if there really is an outcry (so far, I only see two people) to have animation, I guess I could make it ok.

Feel free to make a stone with animation too... just not for this contest. Don't let the fact I'd rather not have them in this contest stop you from making it on your own.

Ugh. Now I'm wondering why I'm bothering. Will people even enter this one? :(

[krough]

I plan on entering

[Zombie-F]

Ok, the prize for top spot this time around is a 700W Fogger (http://thefrighteners.com/Foggers.htm), courtesy of Frighteners Entertainment!

[TipoDeemin]

I ought to be entering. Just gotta decide what I want to do with my stone.

[Dr Morbius]

Ok, the prize for top spot this time around is a 700W Fogger (http://thefrighteners.com/Foggers.htm), courtesy of Frighteners Entertainment!

Holy Crap! That's one helluva prize! Any second place? hehe..:D I already said I was in, I was just wondering if there were enough people who wanted animation, if that would change the rules, I would know which direction to take...I just heard from many that they wanted more options than static, that's all.

[darryl]

I'm in. Just wish there wasn't the 42" height limit. I guess I'll just have to rethink my entry.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Holy Crap! That's one helluva prize! Any second place? hehe..:D I already said I was in, I was just wondering if there were enough people who wanted animation, if that would change the rules, I would know which direction to take...I just heard from many that they wanted more options than static, that's all.
Gald you like it!
So, does this mean you're in?

[heresjohnny]

I'm trying to do this so I can challenge you into making some tombstones that are a little less typical in shape and design that what we normally see, but if there really is an outcry (so far, I only see two people) to have animation, I guess I could make it ok.

Feel free to make a stone with animation too... just not for this contest. Don't let the fact I'd rather not have them in this contest stop you from making it on your own.

Ugh. Now I'm wondering why I'm bothering. Will people even enter this one? :(

Hey Zombie-F, I for one am glad you are bothering. Being new to this community and prop building, I am thourghly enjoying the friendly competition, banter and motivation to build props 6 months before Halloween. Yes, I vote for animation, but that's because Dr. Morbious presents such a challenge to try and beat! I will enter the contest with or without animation, just please no more restrictions then you already have. And keep up the good work, this forum is awesome!:D

[Bram Bones]

I think rules are the thing.
And they are pretty fair rules. This sounds like a cool contest.

Creativity can't be stymied by a few rules.

So what's Krough going to do? Pumpkinrot doesn't really make tombstones!
:D He's got nothing to emulate! :eek:

[Blackwidow]

I love animation but for this contest I'd have to vote for static. For me an animated tombstone seems to cross the line from tombstone to prop. Maybe we could have a separate contest in the near future for most original prop that requires using a tombstone as part of the design?

I believe I understand what Zombie is looking for and I think it would be a challenge to create an original tombstone design with the rules that are in place now...count me in :)

[Zombie-F]

Great news... as a runner-up prize, grapegrl is donating a bunch of her grapevines and some Spanish moss! I'll add it to the prize list later on when I have the time.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Thanks grapegirl!

[Bram Bones]

wine vines! :jol:

[grapegrl]

I'm happy to help out! :D

[Blackwidow]

What a great prize...thanks grapegrl!

[trishaanne]

OK, I guess I'll try to get in on this one since the last time around I couldn't make it. Any rules are fine with me, and I personally like the idea of just judging based on the design, not an epitaph.

[krough]

I think rules are the thing.
And they are pretty fair rules. This sounds like a cool contest.

Creativity can't be stymied by a few rules.

So what's Krough going to do? Pumpkinrot doesn't really make tombstones!
:D He's got nothing to emulate! :eek:

Yeah, I know I cant build anything without copying Pumpkinrot.
Guess I will have to see what I can steal from someone else.
Oh well.

Thanks for the kind words Bram

[Dr Morbius]

Yes, I am in. I think the rules are fine too. I understand the challenge, and I am looking forward to seeing what everyone comes up with!

[DeathTouch]

That is cool that grapegrl is giving out vines for a prize. Since the last batch she gave me was ranstack by my chocolate lab puppy, it might come in handy. Just to give the dog something to do while the next contest comes around. Maybe the next contest, everyone makes a prop and sends it into Zombie. Then zombie gets to drop them off a cliff, while he is filming it. We could call it the best splater prop contest. LOL.

[mrklaw]

I'm in on this one too. When is the deadline? Did I just not notice it?

[mrklaw]

oops. I just saw the rules thread. I guess it's June 30.

[HibLaGrande]

so it begins! trying my hand at my first plaster cast. I have the stuff and I'm a goin to town. he he I don't plan on giving too many hints too soon.some of you guys know what I'm up to....Dr. morbius please remain silent :D

[HibLaGrande]

would a large skeletal hand breaking the ground holding a tombstone be allowed if it all looks like stone? or is that considered a monument?

[krough]

would a large skeletal hand breaking the ground holding a tombstone be allowed if it all looks like stone? or is that considered a monument?

Oh man you stole my Idea :D

[Zombie-F]

would a large skeletal hand breaking the ground holding a tombstone be allowed if it all looks like stone? or is that considered a monument?

That'll be fair game.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

This will be a good go around!
I'm looking forward to see what emerges!

[krough]

OK, here I go. Im having trouble because I cant use Stumpy as part of my tombstone and since pumpkinrot doesnt make tombstones, I thought hey Dr M and DT make good props. and this is Unpleasant street after all.
What do you guys and gals think, this is tombstone concept #1?
Feedback please
http://www.grimvisions.com/images/Concept1.jpg

[VtheVamp]

can you post pictures/examples of those that are NOT allowed?
Please & thank you. :googly:

[DeathTouch]

OK, here I go. Im having trouble because I cant use Stumpy as part of my tombstone and since pumpkinrot doesnt make tombstones, I thought hey Dr M and DT make good props. and this is Unpleasant street after all.
What do you guys and gals think, this is tombstone concept #1?
Feedback please
http://www.grimvisions.com/images/Concept1.jpg

My wife thought that was cute. I can cut his head off and send it to you if you want. Only 5 bucks. He didn't do good as a prop but certainly he looks better on your tombstone.

[heresjohnny]

OK, here I go. Im having trouble because I cant use Stumpy as part of my tombstone and since pumpkinrot doesnt make tombstones, I thought hey Dr M and DT make good props. and this is Unpleasant street after all.
What do you guys and gals think, this is tombstone concept #1?
Feedback please
http://www.grimvisions.com/images/Concept1.jpg

Uh, yeah Krough, I definitely think you should enter that one!:zombie:

[darryl]

Lol

[darryl]

Looking at pictures online. What is a monument considered? Does the stone have to be flat or can we make it say 1 foot x 1 foot square? Can it be 6 inches thick and 2 foot wide? Or just flat. Just don't want to get to work and then be disqualifed. Sorry for the confusion but I have some decent ideas and want to make sure I'm within the guidelines.

[Dr Morbius]

LOL!! I absolutely love that! Very Funny! :D

[Zombie-F]

Looking at pictures online. What is a monument considered? Does the stone have to be flat or can we make it say 1 foot x 1 foot square? Can it be 6 inches thick and 2 foot wide? Or just flat. Just don't want to get to work and then be disqualifed. Sorry for the confusion but I have some decent ideas and want to make sure I'm within the guidelines.

1 Foot by 1 foot square would be more along the lines of a monument. We're going for flat tombstones here.

I'll get some pics up of what NOT to build later in the morning.

[Zombie-F]

can you post pictures/examples of those that are NOT allowed?
Please & thank you. :googly:

Ok, I updated the rules thread (http://forums.unpleasantstreet.com/showthread.php?t=1994) to show examples of what to make and what not to make.

The photos of what to make are only examples of what is ok... you don't necessarily need to make yours the exact shape or size of what's in the photo. The photo is just showing you that we're looking for you to make a basic, flat-style tombstone.

[DeathTouch]

I was expecting the rules to show an example of what not to put there. Like the krough/rosie tombstone. Which looks like a winner if you ask me.

[NecroBones]

Cool, maybe I'll get off my butt and participate this time. I want to make some stones anyway.

[Blackwidow]

I was expecting the rules to show an example of what not to put there. Like the krough/rosie tombstone. Which looks like a winner if you ask me.

Check again DT, Zombie put examples of what NOT to enter.

[DeathTouch]

Check again DT, Zombie put examples of what NOT to enter.

LOL. I was scared there for a second Blackwidow. I thought he used that same picture as an example. It would be funny though.

[DeathTouch]

I was wondering, can we put artwork on this? Meaning a 1/2 3D object. Like hands, face, etc. Something like the praying hands that you see all the time, but 3d.

For example

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/lovermonkey/Halloween/overview.jpg

[Otaku]

I like using wooden grave markers in my cemetery. Would a half-rotted, moss-covered, worm-eaten wooden marker be an acceptable entry?

[NecroBones]

Based on what was said earlier about the "stone skeleton hand" being OK, then it sounds like 3D "relief" artwork would be fine. Actually, I'm guessing it's highly encouraged. :)

[Zombie-F]

I was expecting the rules to show an example of what not to put there. Like the krough/rosie tombstone. Which looks like a winner if you ask me.

Uhh... scroll further down, I did show what NOT to make up there. :p

[Zombie-F]

I was wondering, can we put artwork on this? Meaning a 1/2 3D object. Like hands, face, etc. Something like the praying hands that you see all the time, but 3d.

For example

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/lovermonkey/Halloween/overview.jpg

Sure you can! That's essentially the kinds of things I'm hoping people come up with for this contest.

[Zombie-F]

I like using wooden grave markers in my cemetery. Would a half-rotted, moss-covered, worm-eaten wooden marker be an acceptable entry?

Yes.

[Otaku]

Cool! I'm definitely in. And I do need another fogger! If external lights are used, such as LED spots or small floods, should they be included in the cost? I'm not trying to muddy the waters, but sometimes lighting can make or break a prop.

[Lotus]

Already Started to work on the Design :D

Also how wide can they be I kinda wanted me make something like but not that wide closer together
http://www.tretower.com/graphics/tombstone%20james%20t.jpg

[Zombie-F]

Cool! I'm definitely in. And I do need another fogger! If external lights are used, such as LED spots or small floods, should they be included in the cost? I'm not trying to muddy the waters, but sometimes lighting can make or break a prop.

Whatever lighting you use when photographing the prop will not go into the cost. I just included that "hint" to see if we can get some photos of the props under show lighting so the pictures look a little less "sterile."

Just remember... don't BUILD any stones with lighting inside them. :D

[darryl]

Thanks Zombie. The pics really helped with the what not to make/what to make situation. Time to get to it!!!

[Lotus]

I love this Tombstone

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/LotusMA/WBCBeforeBlood.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/LotusMA/WBCBleeding6b.jpg

[Dr Morbius]

so it begins! trying my hand at my first plaster cast. I have the stuff and I'm a goin to town. he he I don't plan on giving too many hints too soon.some of you guys know what I'm up to....Dr. morbius please remain silent :D

You may buy my silence! Paypal accepted...hehe:D

[Dr Morbius]

I found some pretty good tombstones on the net...Is it OK to steal part of a design? I am NO designer, but I think I can mimic somthing else. How far can plagerism go?

[Dr Morbius]

I've been thinking about epitaphs...Since lettering is a big part of tombstone making, maybe we sould all do the SAME epitaph,

This way, y'all can show off your lettering, and one won't be swayed to vote for the most clever epitaph instead of the design..also, it'll prove you made it for this contest, and you didn't dig it out of your prop box or "borrow" someone elses.(not that I think people here would do that)..what do you think?

What epitaph should we use?

I'll start...Ahem."Here lies Stumpy. How he caught on fire is still a mystery" hehe..:p

[Dr Morbius]

DR. i had mentioned this to somone else, but get some tissue paper and chalk or whatever.......get shape of the stone. Becareful and not mess up some ones marker though. I dunno if its a bad idea or not people at yard might not approve,But its worth a shot if its ok with the funeral home or what not. I have seen people with tissue paper and crayon or chalk copy the names of stones before so maybe its ok to do. Just a suggestion


Thanks Krypt..I have a design, It's just not mine. I won't copy it exactly, but let's just say it's not my IDEA.

[Zombie-F]

Like I said in the rules, feel free to look around for inspiration. The design doesn't need to be yours.

[Black Cat]

Well, I've finally got the bug to build again. I've read all the rules and this is something I can do. I started working on my new tombstone yesterday. I'm experimenting with my dryer lint clay for this project. Hope it turns out like I want it to.

[DeathTouch]

Yahhhh, Black Cat has the bug! Now I have to do my Mrs. Janet Jackson song. Everyone sing with me,

"Black cat nine lives

Short days long nights

Livin' on the edge

Not afraid to die

Heart beat real strong

But not for long

Better watch your step

Or you're gonna die
"

This song works better if I had the solid Gold Upleasant Street dancers to back me up.

[Blackwidow]

Well, I've finally got the bug to build again. I've read all the rules and this is something I can do. I started working on my new tombstone yesterday. I'm experimenting with my dryer lint clay for this project. Hope it turns out like I want it to.

Welcome back to the Street, Black Cat. Good to see you getting back to your prop-building!

[DeathTouch]

Did anyone start their tombstone yet?

[Black Cat]

I started mine. I'm just waiting for it to dry before I move on to the next step of it.

[Otaku]

Sure have. I prefer the wooden cross grave markers, and here's what I have so far. The wood came from a 30 year old fence. The half-skull is mache. I still need to add some stringy moss, webs and such, and detail the skull. I used similar crosses in the cemetery last Halloween and really liked the way they looked in the LED spots.

http://halloweengallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-3263
http://halloweengallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-3271

[Bram Bones]

Otaku,
That looks so cool.
Neat idea to use old wood.

The skull is a great touch!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Looks good!

[Dr Morbius]

Looks great! I really like it...

I have compiled a design and will try to duplicate it...Wish me luck..


http://x10.putfile.com/4/10121314867.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

I may change the epitaph...hehe

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Oh yeah, I like that!!

[DeathTouch]

I started in the design. Here is a pic and what it will say.

http://blogcrypt.com/uploads/d/Deathtouch/24.jpg

Heavily sob the mourners of death.

Trivial rituals for those that are left.

River of tears yet wasted on me,

it quenches thy thirst from ye own family tree.

Cast out ye thoughts and I shalt whittle them to stone,

for the people drenched in darkness and left all alone.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Dam, another nice one.
Man, this is getting even better than the $20 challenge!!

[DeathTouch]

You said that last time. We all got beat by a stump. LOL.

[Otaku]

True, but the stump does have a nice smile!

[Dr Morbius]

If what I hear about Kroughs design is true, we are all in BIG trouble...I think he may be unbeatable..Too much talent for one human being..LOL

[DeathTouch]

Well, Dr. M. since I know where he lives, a round about way, we could go over there and stop him before he submits his entry.

[Dr Morbius]

Well, Dr. M. since I know where he lives, a round about way, we could go over there and stop him before he submits his entry.

hehe...I'll bring the duct tape....hehe

[Zombie-F]

Wow. They all look awesome so far. Good job on he designs guys.

The old fencing with that skull atop it looks great, Otaku.

[DeathTouch]

Since krough likes to dress up like Charlie Chan, I was thinking we would take him to a not so nice neighborhood in LA, and tell folks that he is really a white guy who is making fun of all the Chinese. Then we won't have to worry about stumpy any more. LOL.

[Hella]

wow, the ideas that have been posted so far are setting a high standard! I can't wait to see how they all turn out.
I have a design in mind for something as well...hopefully I will be able to get it finished and entered on time ;)

[DeathTouch]

Hey, I got my first photo today. Guess how tall the stick in the middle is? The damn thing looks like a ship instead of a tombstone.

"On the good ship deathtouch, its sweat trip to the candy shop."{singing}

http://www.blogcrypt.com/uploads/d/Deathtouch/25.jpg

[HibLaGrande]

this is what Im working on.... the skull illusion. watch as the skull moves to follow the viewer. ooooo creepy, takes a while to load.

http://media.putfile.com/skull1-44

[darryl]

Me thinking how to say this:
Is anyone going to be walking slow enough to see that effect when they start running away from it?
If people are running in fear will they get the full effect?
Don't think people will get the full effect as they will probablly be freaked out and moving at a high rate of speed in the opposite direction.
I'm trying to give you a compliment but can't figure out how to say what I mean. Anyways..........nice job!!!

[Black Cat]

Looks great HibLaGrande.

I'm still working on my tombstone using a wire frame on white styrofoam which I'm covering with my dryer lint clay. Hopefully once I achieve the desired raised effect and it's all painted it will look like carved stone. I've taken a few pictures but haven't loaded them into the computer yet.

[Dr Morbius]

It took me a couple of tries to "see" the illusion..I was wondering at first why you were showing us an inverted cast of a skull,..then after the third viewing, it popped out and the illusion worked...very surprising! I really like it! I'm surprised the illusion works on video, as I always assumed it was a 3D thing. Weird..should look great on a stone...And, I want to try that illusion in my haunt too!

[HibLaGrande]

Ive done some sanding and painting since that vid was taken. the illusion works a little better with some gloss to it. and I still need to drybrush some black onto it to give it more depth.

[Blackwidow]

Wow, that is so cool :) Nice job Hib, I can't wait to see the finished stone!

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

Nice illusion HibLaGrande. I haven't started on my stone yet. Have a concept now I need to see if I can make it.

[heresjohnny]

In the spirit of krough, I have decided on a design and will describe it, hoping I can figure out how to build it. Mine will be a tombstone in a tombstone. A tombstone shaped like a reaper will be opening his robes to reveal a tombstone inside. Impressions of skulls will be pressing against the reaper's cloak as if they are trying to escape. The crumbling tombstone revealed by the reaper will have a single word, 'VACANCY'.

Now the fun begins!:googly:

[Zombie-F]

In the spirit of krough, I have decided on a design and will describe it, hoping I can figure out how to build it. Mine will be a tombstone in a tombstone. A tombstone shaped like a reaper will be opening his robes to reveal a tombstone inside. Impressions of skulls will be pressing against the reaper's cloak as if they are trying to escape. The crumbling tombstone revealed by the reaper will have a single word, 'VACANCY'.

Now the fun begins!:googly:

Ah, but can you pull it off within the 42" height limitation? Therein lies the challenge. Sounds cool. :D

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Very cool HibLaGrande!

[heresjohnny]

Ive done some sanding and painting since that vid was taken. the illusion works a little better with some gloss to it. and I still need to drybrush some black onto it to give it more depth.

It took me a while to see the illusion (old eyes), but now I am very interested in what it looks like with the painting and finishing. Good Job!

[Dr Morbius]

Crap! My home depot doesn't carry the pink or blue type foam..only beaded...

I wonder if it's not up to california code..Hmmm I hope beaded foam will work. If not, I may have to bow out of the contest.:(

[DeathTouch]

Crap! My home depot doesn't carry the pink or blue type foam..only beaded...

I wonder if it's not up to california code..Hmmm I hope beaded foam will work. If not, I may have to bow out of the contest.:(

Oh no your don't. You can make your tombstone out of anything. Even Paper mache or chicken wire and mudd compound. Dont you quit on me now.

[Dr Morbius]

LOL....Oh man. Chicken wire? Mud compound? I have even less experience with that than foam. The problem is, I really need to sand the foam for my design to work. If it doesn't sand, and I don't think beaded foam does, then my design is out the window. I might be able to sculpt in clay and plaster cast it, I do have experience with plaster..we'll see.

[Black Cat]

Dr Morbius, I'm using beaded white styrofoam for my tombstone. It can be sanded, just make sure to use a sanding block with very fine sand paper. If you try to sand it holding the paper in your hand the beads tend to loosen and or break in spots you don't want it to. I did all my stones last year with white beaded foam and now I can't get used to working on the blue foam.
I also use a woodburning tool that Vlad rigged up for me with a dimmer switch so I can regulate the heat so not to over melt the styro.
You can do this Doc.

[Dr Morbius]

Whew! Thanks BC...OK, then I'll go ahead with the original plan! Might I ask what grade sandpaper you use?

[Black Cat]

Doc, I'm using 3M General Purpose very fine sand paper.

[Dr Morbius]

usually theres a grit number..Or does it just say "very fine"?

[Black Cat]

Doc, I bought the sandpaper at the dollar store and the entire packaging is in spanish. It does say 230N Very Fine on the back of the paper if that helps.

[Dr Morbius]

Gracias! Muchos gracias! Si Tiendo una 230N..!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Gracias! Muchos gracias! Si Tiendo una 230N..!
Hey Doc, you may need to check yourself in. It appears you have a condition?

Lunatic

[krough]

Here are some photos of some very cool looking markers

http://www.ukgraves.info/top20.asp

I like this one inparticular

http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=166&pic=16

I wish I knew how to age wood like that. I wonder if there is anyway to speed up the breakdown and cause new wood to look like that rapidly.

Just found this one
http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=196&pic=17
Are those Skulls about 75% of the way from from the bottom on each side?

[heresjohnny]

Here are some photos of some very cool looking markers

http://www.ukgraves.info/top20.asp

I like this one inparticular

http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=166&pic=16

I wish I knew how to age wood like that. I wonder if there is anyway to speed up the breakdown and cause new wood to look like that rapidly.

Just found this one
http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=196&pic=17
Are those Skulls about 75% of the way from from the bottom on each side?

Great pictures krough, thanks! I don't know how to age wood like that, it kinda reminds me of how palms can have the inside rot out and leave the husk.

Those look like skulls to me, and it also looks like cloth on each side (maybe capes for the skulls?). I will be trying to do the cloth look as part of mine. Man wouldn't it be nice to be able to age the stones to look like those!

I finally got started on mine tonight by making some paper mache skulls with their jaws wrenched open, look which was inspired by krough for stumpy and friends.

[Vlad]

I wish I knew how to age wood like that. I wonder if there is anyway to speed up the breakdown and cause new wood to look like that rapidly.

I know that nothing seems to break down wood faster than immersion in oil, but that would probably leave the wood unpaintable, untreatable, and just a plain mess. I'm thinking that maybe one of the chemicals used to rot out stumps, or maybe just good old fashioned burying in the dirt for a year.

[Otaku]

Those look like skulls to me, and it also looks like cloth on each side (maybe capes for the skulls?). I will be trying to do the cloth look as part of mine. Man wouldn't it be nice to be able to age the stones to look like those!

Arrr, matey! It almost looks like those skulls be wearin' pirates' hats!

[heresjohnny]

Here are some photos of some very cool looking markers

http://www.ukgraves.info/top20.asp

I like this one inparticular

http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=166&pic=16

I wish I knew how to age wood like that. I wonder if there is anyway to speed up the breakdown and cause new wood to look like that rapidly.

Just found this one
http://www.ukgraves.info/review.asp?id=196&pic=17
Are those Skulls about 75% of the way from from the bottom on each side?

I don't know if your up to experimenting, but I had a couple of ideas.

I have seen techniques which use acid, then heat to age the wood but that is more for making it darker when used for furniture. Looking at the cross 2 thinkgs stand out, the way the grain has become very loose and the way the sun has bleached it. Wood gets that same loose grain look when it burns some, I was thinking that maybe priming the surface of the wood with something and burning it for a while would result in the desired effect. Maybe undiluted chlorine would then lighten the wood, in fact undiluted chlorine may even contribute to the loose grain look. Just some ideas.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I'm thinking to weather it you might use vinegar.

[DeathTouch]

I'm thinking to weather it you might use vinegar.

Are you aging wood or making a salad FE?

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I'm sure it could be used for both lol!
But I pretty sure vinegar will turn it gray, if left on longer it may seperate the grains, not sure about that part.

[DeathTouch]

I'm sure it could be used for both lol!
But I pretty sure vinegar will turn it gray, if left on longer it may seperate the grains, not sure about that part.

If that is all you wanted, couldn't you use bleach?

[mrklaw]

I have heard of people using lye, draino or ammonia to age wood.

[HibLaGrande]

I seen a show where a guy would take a piece of wood to the local grainery and put it in the chute where corn and or rice came out of the silo into the truck. it gave the wood a vey old and worn look.

[krough]

I seen a show where a guy would take a piece of wood to the local grainery and put it in the chute where corn and or rice came out of the silo into the truck. it gave the wood a vey old and worn look.

Hmm, maybe a bead blaster would work

[Dr Morbius]

Why don't you just go into the woods and find some old wood there? Like small logs with bark removed, or peeling...Might even find some with moss on it already.

[krough]

Why don't you just go into the woods and find some old wood there? Like small logs with bark removed, or peeling...Might even find some with moss on it already.

I was actually thinking of going down to the banks of the sound this weekend and looking for some drift wood, I know a few good spots.

[Dr Morbius]

Go.Fetch....Good boy.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Hey ZF, it appears that we need a new banner for this event.

[DeathTouch]

Yea, maybe something with spiders and haunt DVDs on it. Oh, my! LOL.

[Dr Morbius]

Hey Doc, you may need to check yourself in. It appears you have a condition?

Lunatic

I was responding to Black Cats post about her sandpaper package being in spanish, so I thought I would combine that with a big "thank you" to her.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I guess I should have explained better.
It had to do with your 1000th post. (Lunatic)

[heresjohnny]

Dr. Morbius is a lunatic

[Dr Morbius]

I guess I should have explained better.
It had to do with your 1000th post. (Lunatic)

Oh my god..I didn't even notice that! Holy crap! 1000 posts! Jeez....and it feels like I just started not long ago!...Thanks for noticing FE!

[DeathTouch]

Oh my god..I didn't even notice that! Holy crap! 1000 posts! Jeez....and it feels like I just started not long ago!...Thanks for noticing FE!

Can we measure hot air by how many posts you got?

Maybe I should be silent, I am almost at 1000. I have been here less.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Well, I've only been here since , what, Feb.
I just babble on and on......
Lots of hot air here lol

[Dr Morbius]

Well, I've only been here since , what, Feb.
I just babble on and on......
Lots of hot air here lol

Holy Christ, FE! That's right! You have only been here a couple months...And you've already passed me! You must have ALOT of free time and worn out keyboards! LOL

[DeathTouch]

The way you are going FE you are going to have to setup a Wireless plan with Zombie. 59.95 gives you when ever you want to chat mins. And Weekends are free.

[Dr Morbius]

The way you are going FE you are going to have to setup a Wireless plan with Zombie. 59.95 gives you when ever you want to chat mins. And Weekends are free.

Don't forget roaming charges...And set up fees!

[DeathTouch]

Yes and Roaming charges.. Zombie takes Visa, Master Card, Discover, dinners club, Sears check clear plus, Bob's Gas and Go card, and Nix photos and more card.

[Dr Morbius]

you just went through your wallet, didn't you? It's ok, you can admit it..

[heresjohnny]

I am starting to get some things done. Here are the first 4 mache pulls for my screaming skulls, inspired by the krough chorus. They will be trying to escape the tombstone (hehe you'll see, I hope!).

http://johnnyspage.com/images/Picture%20022.jpg

[krough]

Those are awesome HJ. Way Cool.
I have yet to start my Tombstone.

[DeathTouch]

Whole molly, gas is at 3 bucks. Where have I been?

[HibLaGrande]

nice job on the skulls there HJ.

[Hella]

HJ, those look cool, can't wait to see how your vision is realized.

Krough, not started yet!..lol but who am I to talk, neither have I

and DT, you have been on Unpleasant Street....where gas is cheap because the fuel of choice is hot air apparently ;)..I think you will be at 1000 posts by tomorrow...lol

[Dr Morbius]

Whole molly, gas is at 3 bucks. Where have I been?

And Palm Bay may hike up impact fees! what is this world coming to? Damn, I need the impact fees to stay where they are now, or I can no longer make an impact! By the way, HJ how much does it cost to live on the Space Coast? I can see they have a picture of Krough working on his new workshop..Good thing he's wearing a hardhat, with all the S*** we sling at him!

[heresjohnny]

And Palm Bay may hike up impact fees! what is this world coming to? Damn, I need the impact fees to stay where they are now, or I can no longer make an impact! By the way, HJ how much does it cost to live on the Space Coast? I can see they have a picture of Krough working on his new workshop..Good thing he's wearing a hardhat, with all the S*** we sling at him!

It's more expensive than it used to be, but not as bad as some places.

Thanks for the compliments everyone, I hope everything turns out looking like a tombstone!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

HJ, that photo was almost a 3D shot, kinda creepy!
Very cool!

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Hey there Dr. M and DT, you just made me crap my pants, THANKS!

[Blackwidow]

HJ, that photo was almost a 3D shot, kinda creepy!
Very cool!

I saw that too but just thought it was my eyes :googly:
Nice skulls heresjohnny!

[DeathTouch]

That is weird, on the other page they have a sale on cars. That should help the gas prices.(not)

[Otaku]

Lookin' good, HJ! Can't wait to see your entry.

[Otaku]

I found a few older wooden markers in a local cemetery. Nothing really unusual, but a couple have some nice shapes. These date back to 1905 - 1930.
http://halloweengallery.com/displayimage.php?pos=-3292

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Sure looks pretty dry there

[Otaku]

Yes, I was surprised because we've had hecka rain out here the past several weeks. The shadier spots were still a little damp, but I was hoping to see some really mossy stones.

[HibLaGrande]

And Palm Bay may hike up impact fees! what is this world coming to? Damn, I need the impact fees to stay where they are now, or I can no longer make an impact! By the way, HJ how much does it cost to live on the Space Coast? I can see they have a picture of Krough working on his new workshop..Good thing he's wearing a hardhat, with all the S*** we sling at him!

LOL!:D

[krough]

Yeah its hard to see in that pic, but in addition to the hard hat I am wearing waders as well

[krough]

Another skull stone

http://www.gotouring.com/howdy/book1/images/200-tombstone-face.jpg

[DeathTouch]

Ok, that one is cool krough.

[Dr Morbius]

Well, It turns out that despite Blackwidows good intentions, I will NOT be using blue foam for my tombstone..Shipping doesn't justify it. I am stuck with Crap laden Beaded foam..(No offence Black Cat)..I really hope it pans out..I gotta get more creative than I can imagine on this..This challenge, on the outside seemed relatively easy compared to the 20 dollar prop challenge, but it is absolutely driving me NUTS! NOTHING is working out! But, I won't give up untill I have exausted all resources.

[DeathTouch]

Just give up Dr. M. You don't need a fogger anyway. What you need is a nice Ice Cream Sundae. Yummy!

[Dr Morbius]

Just give up Dr. M. You don't need a fogger anyway. What you need is a nice Ice Cream Sundae. Yummy!

hey, I just might!:(

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Hey you better not!
I'm doing one :)

[Blackwidow]

Don't feel bad Doc, I haven't started mine either.
I'm still trying to come up with a design :rolleyes:

[darryl]

Well, It turns out that despite Blackwidows good intentions, I will NOT be using blue foam for my tombstone..Shipping doesn't justify it. I am stuck with Crap laden Beaded foam..(No offence Black Cat)..I really hope it pans out..I gotta get more creative than I can imagine on this..This challenge, on the outside seemed relatively easy compared to the 20 dollar prop challenge, but it is absolutely driving me NUTS! NOTHING is working out! But, I won't give up untill I have exausted all resources.
I must have too much time on my hands. If you still live in Salinas, Home Depot carries blue and pink foam.
http://http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=locator%2findex.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@2020713584.1145725706@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchaddhijmjjddcgelceffdfgidgkg.0&MID=9876 (http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=locator%2findex.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@2020713584.1145725706@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchaddhijmjjddcgelceffdfgidgkg.0&MID=9876)
I typed in zip code 93906, which I got off of the US Postal Service website and found a HD in Salinas. Last time I bought a piece of 2 foot x 8 foot x 1inch piece of foam it was $12 and some change.
Just remember though, I am not a nice guy. If anamtronics were allowed in this contest I would agree with DT. Ice cream sundaes are much better than foggers!! :D

[krough]

Dr M take DT's advice and go for the Ice cream:D

[Dr Morbius]

I must have too much time on my hands. If you still live in Salinas, Home Depot carries blue and pink foam.
http://http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=locator%2findex.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@2020713584.1145725706@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchaddhijmjjddcgelceffdfgidgkg.0&MID=9876 (http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=NAVIGATION&CNTKEY=locator%2findex.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@2020713584.1145725706@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchaddhijmjjddcgelceffdfgidgkg.0&MID=9876)
I typed in zip code 93906, which I got off of the US Postal Service website and found a HD in Salinas. Last time I bought a piece of 2 foot x 8 foot x 1inch piece of foam it was $12 and some change.
Just remember though, I am not a nice guy. If anamtronics were allowed in this contest I would agree with DT. Ice cream sundaes are much better than foggers!! :D


Thank you for the link..I was just at HD the other day, and I can ASSURE you...no pink or blue foam. I will try other sources, and let you guys know what I find.

I did find Polyisocyanurate foam..is this the same thing? It is at the Seaside location, but I could make the trip if this is the right stuff.http://x11.putfile.com/4/11115365018.jpg (http://www.putfile.com)

[grim reaper]

danm i haven't had time to plan my tombstone yet school takes up to much time lol im liking what you guys have done so far i was thinking about adding in my picture of the dead skeleton thingy holding my sign but its not really a tombstone so i gues i will have to get planning

[TipoDeemin]

I think that's it, but it looks kinda thin, Doc.

[darryl]

Sorry Doc. Really thought that might help but I should have know that you were smarter then that. I don't think the other stuff will work the same though.

[Dr Morbius]

I think that's it, but it looks kinda thin, Doc.
says it's 1" thick

[Zombie-F]

We now have a thrid place prize to offer! Thanks to a kind donation from Dr. Morbius, the person taking the #3 spot will walk away with their choice of any one item from the Unpleasant Street Shop (http://www.cafepress.com/zombie_f).

That "Kiss the Corpse" BBQ apron would be pretty sweet to have at your BBQ this year, wouldn't it? :D

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Awesome Doc!

[Zombie-F]

I finally made a banner for this contest. I'll probably be posting about the contest to the main site later on today or tomorrow.

It's nothing flashy this time around, but have a look anyway:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/Zombie-F/MySpace/tournament_de_tombstone.gif

[DeathTouch]

I really like the banner.

[heresjohnny]

Thanks for the donation Dr. M! That is very thoughtful of you. The banner is great zombie. What tool did you use? I need to make one myself.

[Zombie-F]

Thanks for the donation Dr. M! That is very thoughtful of you. The banner is great zombie. What tool did you use? I need to make one myself.

I have Paint Shop Pro 7 for my image editing/creation needs. Someday I'll break down and buy a newer version. :p

[DeathTouch]

I just got the newer version last month Zombie. The X version. It is nice.

[krypt]

DR that blue stuff you posted will work 1 inch thick you say glue two boards together and bam 2 inch thick.......bone dancer told me about a liquid nails just for foam so ....might wanna drop him a pm and ask ...i dont remember right of hand sorry.

[Zombie-F]

Read the fine print on the Liquid Nails foam adhesive... it's not for adhering foam to foam. I made that mistake once myself. It will hold, but it takes about a full week for it to dry.

I've heard of people using wood glue to glue foam together. I use Liquid Nails Heavy Duty Construction and it works fine. You just need to clamp the pieces together and let them dry for about a day.

[krypt]

im pretty sure its a liquid nails just for foam though blue writing on tube instead of brown ......was that what you used ?maybe a gorilla glue also.

[DeathTouch]

Now you all can design tomstones like the pros. With this software. LOL.

http://www.designmart.com/sware.htm

[Blackwidow]

I use the polyurethane glue (same as gorilla glue). It works great and you can sand it, just remember to lightly spray both surfaces with water before you join them.

[DeathTouch]

Yes, that is what I am using for my flying skeleton. That glue is awesome.

[DeathTouch]

Oh, I forgot. In case you were wondering what Krough was making for his Tombstone, I was able to get a photo of his finished tomstone. Here it is.
He thought I was giving him an idea when I said, Call someone who cares. LOL.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/lovermonkey/Halloween/tombstonedead.jpg

[Dr Morbius]

I made a donation?

hehe...My pleasure:D

[TipoDeemin]

Sweet! I'm all jazzed up for this! Now if I could just decide on a pattern...

[darryl]

First shot:
Sorry for the crappy picture, cheap camera!
You get the idea though.

[DeathTouch]

That is the best face of a little girl out of foam that I have ever seen. How do you do it? LOL. You did a good job on that. My hat is off to you.

[Brad Green]

I'm a little behind in the thread, but the best adhesive I've found for foam headstones has been 3m Super 77 multipurpose spray. It's a bit pricey at $11. a can, but it really goes a long way and drys clear and pretty much on contact. Only thing you have to watch is the ease with which you can glue yourself to the project your working on.

[Dr Morbius]

Did you use a router to make the flat spot for the epithaph?

[DeathTouch]

darryl, my wife wants to make sure that I say that your little girl is cute. I don't think my wife liked my joke. I thought it was funny.

[Zombie-F]

I'm a little behind in the thread, but the best adhesive I've found for foam headstones has been 3m Super 77 multipurpose spray. It's a bit pricey at $11. a can, but it really goes a long way and drys clear and pretty much on contact. Only thing you have to watch is the ease with which you can glue yourself to the project your working on.

Doesn't the aerosol eat away at the foam?

[Dr Morbius]

Aerosol doesn't eat away foam, mineral spirits based solvents do..aerosol is just compressed air.

[Zombie-F]

I thought the accelerant in most aerosol-based products ate at the foam? Maybe not. I have some super 77 lying around. I'll have to try it out on a scrap piece someday. I wouldn't bank on it holding the foam together forever though.

[heresjohnny]

First shot:
Sorry for the crappy picture, cheap camera!
You get the idea though.

Darryl, that is a very well executed job on the foam. You had to of used a template on that. Very nice.

[Blackwidow]

Your stone looks great darryl, I really like the shape of it.

ps. your daughter is a cutie :)

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

Nice job on the stone carving Darryl. Cute daughter too.

[Dr Morbius]

Yes!.Great job Darryl!

[darryl]

Thanks everyone. Yes I used a router, actually it is by Craftsman and more like a Roto Zip with a router base. No I didn't use a template for the routing, but I did use a cardboard one to get the curves from one side to the next the same at the top.
I actually took several pics and was going to put them on hauntpics.com but the server said the site was either off or needed to be paid for or something like that. I'll check back later and add them, it will be sort of like a mini how-to since I'm not smart enough to have an actual website. Actually I could probablly figure it out but I'm just to lazy!!
DT, you won't beleive how long it takes to clone your daughter out of foam!! I started the day after Zombie said we were going to have a tombstone comp on the Sat night chat but I had to toss her out when he gave the height restrictions. :D

[DeathTouch]

Thanks everyone. Yes I used a router, actually it is by Craftsman and more like a Roto Zip with a router base. No I didn't use a template for the routing, but I did use a cardboard one to get the curves from one side to the next the same at the top.
I actually took several pics and was going to put them on hauntpics.com but the server said the site was either off or needed to be paid for or something like that. I'll check back later and add them, it will be sort of like a mini how-to since I'm not smart enough to have an actual website. Actually I could probablly figure it out but I'm just to lazy!!
DT, you won't beleive how long it takes to clone your daughter out of foam!! I started the day after Zombie said we were going to have a tombstone comp on the Sat night chat but I had to toss her out when he gave the height restrictions. :D


See I told my wife it is hard to clone kids now a days, and all she did was crack me a cross my head. Woman! You can sell them and you can't use them as props. Well, not with out the fuzz bustin it up.

I somewhat got my base done today. The larger piece that goes on top of base is being glued now. I use that polyurethane glue to bond my foam. It is so good that I accidentally glued a piece to a brick over the winter. That piece of foam is still on that brick as of today. I have not gotten it off yet (Don’t even think of a comment DR. M, LOL) Krough told me that posting pictures screws up the surprise. He might be right. I figure if you are going to see a pile of screw up foam that I made, you might as well wait for the laugh until the contest. LOL. Plus it gives me time to buy one from FE if I screw this one up. I can say it is under 30, that should work.

[darryl]

First you need to cover the wife in MM then the fuzz can't tell there's a woman underneath.
I was leery about jumping the gun and posting a picture so early also but figured what the hell, I'm only going to be able to do what I'm doing to a level of my competence and if I give others ideas and they rip me off and make something similar and then beat me I can always jump off a bridge!! :devil:

[Dr Morbius]

I finished the sculpt on the skull top of my tombstone..I never sculpted before, but I think it's turning out pretty good! the clay is self hardening, and should take paint pretty well. I used an enlarged printout for a template, and I shredded it pretty good during the sculpt.
http://x402.putfile.com/4/11222101225.jpg

[DeathTouch]

I finished the sculpt on the skull top of my tombstone..I never sculpted before, but I think it's turning out pretty good! the clay is self hardening, and should take paint pretty well.
http://x402.putfile.com/4/11222101225.jpg

Did a can of budweiser have anything to do with the process of making the sculpt?

Oh, I am going to be mature and not say anything about the self hardening thing.

Before I forget, it does look nice.

[Dr Morbius]

Did a can of budweiser have anything to do with the process of making the sculpt?

Oh, I am going to be mature and not say anything about the self hardening thing.


No, DT...not a can...MANY CANS!!! You really don't know me very well, do you? HEHE (Hic!):googly:

[DeathTouch]

No, DT...not a can...MANY CANS!!! You really don't know me very well, do you? HEHE (Hic!):googly:

Good, now you are going to have to put the price for the many cans of bud in the price of that as well. It is only fair. Ha ha.

[Dr Morbius]

I'm sorry ...I'm to buzzed to see that last post..Kinda blurry..What did you say?

[Dr Morbius]

See I told my wife it is hard to clone kids now a days, and all she did was crack me a cross my head. Woman! You can sell them and you can't use them as props. Well, not with out the fuzz bustin it up.

I somewhat got my base done today. The larger piece that goes on top of base is being glued now. I use that polyurethane glue to bond my foam. It is so good that I accidentally glued a piece to a brick over the winter. That piece of foam is still on that brick as of today. I have not gotten it off yet (Don’t even think of a comment DR. M, LOL) Krough told me that posting pictures screws up the surprise. He might be right. I figure if you are going to see a pile of screw up foam that I made, you might as well wait for the laugh until the contest. LOL. Plus it gives me time to buy one from FE if I screw this one up. I can say it is under 30, that should work.

PICS! I wanna see pics! Talk is cheap, you know. I don't care what Krough says!

[krough]

Krough told me that posting pictures screws up the surprise. He might be right.

Did I say that? :) Please Ignore DT he is making things up again.

Nice work Dr M and Darryl. very nice.