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Zombie-F
01-31-2010, 09:54 AM
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This is the thread for all discussion concerning the "2010 $20 Prop Challenge."

Please refer to this thread (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?p=404973) for the official rules.

Everyone be completely aware that winners from the previous challenge (2009 $20 Prop Challenge) are not eligible to win prizes in the current challenge. You may still enter, but your entry will not be in the running for a prize.

Feel free to ask questions, make comments and by all means... talk amongst yourselves. :D

Joiseygal
01-31-2010, 10:38 AM
Oh this is exciting! I've been waiting for the $20 dollar prop challenge. YAY!

Otaku
01-31-2010, 10:56 AM
It's here! I've been waiting for this.

Z, are strictly electronic entries OK?

Zombie-F
01-31-2010, 11:12 AM
It's here! I've been waiting for this.

Z, are strictly electronic entries OK?

As always, it's anything goes for this challenge as long as the cost requirements are met.

Otaku
01-31-2010, 11:15 AM
Cool! Thanks, Z.

madmomma
01-31-2010, 04:47 PM
Ooohhh, my first challenge...can't wait to get started. My family thinks I'm off-the-wall for even thinking of Halloween at the end of January. Never too early, I say!

STOLLOWEEN
01-31-2010, 04:51 PM
Been waiting for this since last April ...let the madness commence

GothicCandle
01-31-2010, 05:47 PM
YAYYYY I love contests!!!! Gives me a good reason to finale get started!!

Devil
01-31-2010, 05:47 PM
Maybe I will give it a try this year....

hedg12
01-31-2010, 06:55 PM
OK, for the first obligatory "how much is this worth" question, I have some "egg crate" foam rubber that was used for packing. Would this be considered free, or should I count it the same as the scrapped foam insulation?

dubbax3
01-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Who's that handsome blue fella?

Joiseygal
01-31-2010, 07:38 PM
Who's that handsome blue fella?

I heard he was stolen from "Future World" in Disneyland. Disneyland is investigating the Hauntforum as we speak! :) I believe operatingnurse is the investigator.

GothicCandle
01-31-2010, 07:46 PM
How much would 10 year old Elmers glue be? and what should I put down as the price for the plastic ball from a broken witch head crystal ball??? The prop was 18$ from walmart 2008 but it broke so I took it apart for parts.

Bethene
01-31-2010, 08:10 PM
Yay, am excited about this!! now to get the old thinking cap on!!

Zombie-F
01-31-2010, 08:34 PM
OK, for the first obligatory "how much is this worth" question, I have some "egg crate" foam rubber that was used for packing. Would this be considered free, or should I count it the same as the scrapped foam insulation?

If you're recycling it from packaging, then it indeed a freebie.

How much would 10 year old Elmers glue be? and what should I put down as the price for the plastic ball from a broken witch head crystal ball??? The prop was 18$ from walmart 2008 but it broke so I took it apart for parts.

For the glue, find how much it would cost today and pro-rate how much of the glue you use. So if you use half the bottle, only include half the price of the bottle.

Using a portion of a prop... hmmmmm... I think $1 for the ball sounds fair. Most of the cost of that thing is really in the electronics.

debbie5
01-31-2010, 10:40 PM
I didnt know we could start so much in advance!! Anyone happen to have a spare horse skeleton in their back 20?

If I lop off a limb from my child & use it , is that "free"?? There WAS a $250 copay at the hospital at the time of her birth......??
But the "materials" were free (heh heh heh).

Joiseygal
01-31-2010, 10:56 PM
I didnt know we could start so much in advance!! Anyone happen to have a spare horse skeleton in their back 20?

If I lop off a limb from my child & use it , is that "free"?? There WAS a $250 copay at the hospital at the time of her birth......??
But the "materials" were free (heh heh heh).

Yikes! I can tell it will be some tough competition. I'm just happy that it will give me a reason to get off my butt and start my first project!

GothicCandle
01-31-2010, 11:49 PM
Yikes! I can tell it will be some tough competition. I'm just happy that it will give me a reason to get off my butt and start my first project!

Same here!
Good luck!

Draik41895
02-01-2010, 12:19 AM
Im Late! Im Late! for a very important date! Must get busy, Must get working! Im late, Im late, Im late!

spokanejoe
02-01-2010, 11:48 AM
OH YAY....Let the games begin !!!!

Spooky1
02-01-2010, 01:53 PM
I won't be able to enter since Roxy is a Mod now. :( I may still put something together just for fun. Good luck all.

Joiseygal
02-01-2010, 02:16 PM
Maybe in the future they can have a Moderator and family contest? Just a thought!

fick209
02-01-2010, 02:23 PM
How about wood pallets, since a lot of businesses (at least in my area) give them away for free to whoever wants them, can the boards removed from the pallet be considered as free?

Devils Chariot
02-01-2010, 03:10 PM
I won't be able to enter since Roxy is a Mod now. :( I may still put something together just for fun. Good luck all.


Wah Wahhhhhh (sad horn)

Zombie-F
02-01-2010, 03:25 PM
How about wood pallets, since a lot of businesses (at least in my area) give them away for free to whoever wants them, can the boards removed from the pallet be considered as free?

My past rulings on pallets has been as follows:

The lumber scrapped from a pallet (skid) would have the cost * .3 rule applied.

Since the lumber used on most pallets is 1 x 4, it would come out to a cost of $0.04 per foot.

This is mainly to keep the things someone can build reasonable. If I were to allow it as free, a person could build an entire haunt out of pallets and call it free.

fick209
02-01-2010, 04:12 PM
I did look around for the answer and didn't see it, must have over looked it, Thanks!

HauntDaddy
02-01-2010, 06:19 PM
I cant wait I've been thinking what to do since december.....Cant wait

BackYardHaunter
02-01-2010, 07:43 PM
great ive been waiting for this since i joined but on the "Recyclables" its ok to use cardboard

Draik41895
02-01-2010, 08:20 PM
soo, bottles, cardboard & paper, plastic bags,free...Did we ever settle on a price for the coat hangers?

Zombie-F
02-01-2010, 08:23 PM
soo, bottles, cardboard & paper, plastic bags,free...Did we ever settle on a price for the coat hangers?

In past challenges the hangers have been considered free and will be for this one as well.

Bone To Pick
02-01-2010, 08:39 PM
Thanks for making it happen, Zombie!

Now, how to compete with people who can build a functioning space shuttle out of toilet paper rolls.............?

bats
02-01-2010, 08:50 PM
I take that challenge

bats
02-01-2010, 08:52 PM
Any tips anyone?

bats
02-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Excellent

spideranne
02-01-2010, 09:06 PM
Yes. Can't wait to get started. Nothing like a challenge to get the building started.

Merlin (The Quiet One)
02-01-2010, 09:09 PM
Yipee! Yipee! Been waiting for this to come round. Now........what to make?

GothicCandle
02-01-2010, 09:32 PM
Thanks for making it happen, Zombie!

Now, how to compete with people who can build a functioning space shuttle out of toilet paper rolls.............?


THAT is the question. and the answer is? Bribe the space aliens....ohhh Amelia!!! Come here sweetie and do me a itty bitty Favor...

(Amelia is an Alien Chicken prop I made)

Draik41895
02-02-2010, 12:22 AM
oh my....keep her outta my house!

The Archivist
02-02-2010, 03:33 PM
I have a couple of questions.

1) Does the creation of the prop have to be totally original or can I modify an existing idea? (The basic prop is something I found on Instructables.com)

2) If the prop has motion, do I need to include a video? If so, can I link to my photobucket page?

3) If I can get the electronic parts as samples from the respective companies, do I list them as free or should I list them as if I had bought them?

The Archivist
02-02-2010, 04:21 PM
Another question from me, will this contest have specific categories with corresponding qualifications or will all entries be just lumped together?

Hauntiholik
02-02-2010, 04:23 PM
Another question from me, will this contest have specific categories with corresponding qualifications or will all entries be just lumped together?

If you look at the past $20 prop challenge contests you'll see that they are all lumped together.

Hauntiholik
02-02-2010, 04:28 PM
I have a couple of questions.
2) If the prop has motion, do I need to include a video? If so, can I link to my photobucket page?
A video is okay but you should also include at least one picture of the finished prop (link to external photo okay).


3) If I can get the electronic parts as samples from the respective companies, do I list them as free or should I list them as if I had bought them?
I don't think you can list them as free.

The Archivist
02-02-2010, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Any idea about question 1?

Hauntiholik
02-02-2010, 04:34 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Any idea about question 1?

Uhhhh....
As always, it's anything goes for this challenge as long as the cost requirements are met.
I think Dave already answered your question at the beginning of this thread.

pyro
02-02-2010, 05:34 PM
~ :d~

Zombie-F
02-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Any idea about question 1?

The only requirement there is that it be a newly built prop. You can copy/modify/whatever an existing idea, but you must build it anew. It can't be a prop you built 3 months ago and decide to enter.

The Archivist
02-02-2010, 06:57 PM
Cool. Thanks ZF.

wickedwitchwest
02-03-2010, 02:44 PM
Ohhh this should be fun. Too many new props floating around in my mind.

Hauntiholik
02-03-2010, 02:53 PM
Ohhh this should be fun. Too many new props floating around in my mind.

You'd better hurry up and start posting on the forum. You currently are not eligible to enter the contest. :D

All entrants MUST have at least 30 new posts on the forums between January 31st, 2010 and April 30th, 2010. That means new members as well as inactive members must be currently posting on the forums between those dates to be qualified to enter.

The Archivist
02-03-2010, 03:52 PM
30 new posts by April 30th? Sheesh, I could do that in 1 hour...

RoxyBlue
02-03-2010, 04:15 PM
I wonder if I have enough posts......:D

STOLLOWEEN
02-03-2010, 04:22 PM
I wonder if I have enough posts......:D

umm, I think if you were eligible to enter the rules would have to be amended to say...I dunno....5,000 new posts by April 30th :)

RoxyBlue
02-03-2010, 04:25 PM
LOL, Stoll!:)

I can do a "Show and Tell Only" if I want to. Maybe I should make little prop voodoo dolls that suspiciously resemble certain members of a certain forum:googly:

Wildcat
02-03-2010, 06:51 PM
Roxy, I knew you were religious but a Voodoo Priestess?

Hope I'm back in time to participate again.

howlin mad jack
02-03-2010, 10:15 PM
I use lots of recycled materials in my props that I get on the job, do they have a value, and how would I calculate it?

RoxyBlue
02-04-2010, 09:53 AM
I use lots of recycled materials in my props that I get on the job, do they have a value, and how would I calculate it?

Things like newspaper, cardboard boxes, waste paper, plastic and glass bottles, and aluminum cans are examples of materials that are considered free. If you work in a place that gets insulated cardboard boxes that have styrofoam liners, those would be free, as are styrofoam packing peanuts. Wooden pallets are not considered free (there's a comment about that above somewhere, I believe).

From the Official Rules thread:

RECYCLABLES
The following items can be considered as "free" to add to your project. They are commonly recycled items that a person would never need to pay for as they are usually available in abundance for free.

Newspaper
Soda bottles/cans
Paper/plastic bags
Styrofoam packing peanuts

howlin mad jack
02-04-2010, 07:03 PM
Thanks... I guess all the other stuff I'll find out about at work.

BackYardHaunter
02-04-2010, 08:09 PM
so tax is not part of the $20 right? just the retail price

Zombie-F
02-04-2010, 09:16 PM
so tax is not part of the $20 right? just the retail price

Yes, just retail.

GothicCandle
02-05-2010, 02:30 AM
are we suppose to charge anything for items we use which were gifts???

Zombie-F
02-05-2010, 08:55 AM
are we suppose to charge anything for items we use which were gifts???

Yes. Whether you purchased it or received it as a gift, the value of the item is to be applied to your build.

Draik41895
02-05-2010, 09:41 AM
does anyone know the price of a bag of feathers from micheals? my whole prop depends on this

DoctorShadow
02-05-2010, 10:37 AM
I might take a stab at this challenge this year. I have an idea just need to see if I can do it for $20! ;):)

hpropman
02-05-2010, 10:02 PM
oh yeah this was a blast last year and such great entries. Now what to make hmmmm....

Joiseygal
02-05-2010, 11:22 PM
I've already started my project and I'm pretty excited about how it is turning out.

pyro
02-06-2010, 04:33 PM
i dont even know what to make------ :rolleyes:

fritz42_male
02-06-2010, 06:11 PM
Thanks for making it happen, Zombie!

Now, how to compete with people who can build a functioning space shuttle out of toilet paper rolls.............?

Aw c'mon - this is a totally stupid suggestion. Be serious will you!








The craft would burn up on re-entry for goodness sake!

:D

Erebus
02-09-2010, 11:27 AM
Question, does it have to be a "prop" or can it be something to make a prop? I don't want to say exactly what it is but an example would be like GOE hot wire cutter (linked here (http://www.garageofevilnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/the-mach-11-foamerator-extreme)). I know it is kind of a dumb question but we will never stop using these type of things.

Zombie-F
02-09-2010, 11:49 AM
Question, does it have to be a "prop" or can it be something to make a prop? I don't want to say exactly what it is but an example would be like GOE hot wire cutter (linked here (http://www.garageofevilnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/the-mach-11-foamerator-extreme)). I know it is kind of a dumb question but we will never stop using these type of things.

Yes, unique creations such as those are also welcome in the contest.

hpropman
02-09-2010, 12:01 PM
Question, does it have to be a "prop" or can it be something to make a prop? I don't want to say exactly what it is but an example would be like GOE hot wire cutter (linked here (http://www.garageofevilnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/the-mach-11-foamerator-extreme)). I know it is kind of a dumb question but we will never stop using these type of things.

Oh now you have piqued my interest! I am now torn between either building a prop or a tool to be used to build a prop. I am going to be debating this one all day. thanks

:D

Erebus
02-09-2010, 12:02 PM
Do both. You can do that right?

debbie5
02-09-2010, 01:08 PM
Wait....who wants to see a $20 Halloween TOOL!?? Isn't it called The $20 PROP Challenge? If I want to see tools, I can look at my last class reunion picture!

and no one ever answered my question about harvested limbs...did you think I was kidding or something?? (wiping blood off hack saw).

RoxyBlue
02-09-2010, 01:16 PM
Do both. You can do that right?

Only one entry per household:)

debbie5
02-09-2010, 01:20 PM
If I dig up our previous dog, do you think the kids would notice?? Or would they say "Hey, nice skeleton you made!"? Would that be a "recycled" material?

debbie5
02-09-2010, 01:26 PM
Actually, I DO have a serious question: can you use things like a leaf blower (that most of us already have) and if so, how do I price it out? I'm *not* taking it apart to use the motor or anything...I'll be using its windpower to move an object, as my wallet & brain has no access to wiper motors etc. ...(that is, IF I can make my idea work with windpower).
Is use of the leaf blower a freebie or prorated or something??

Joiseygal
02-09-2010, 02:42 PM
wait....who wants to see a $20 halloween tool!?? Isn't it called the $20 prop challenge? If i want to see tools, i can look at my last class reunion picture!

lol :)

Erebus
02-09-2010, 02:56 PM
Wait....who wants to see a $20 Halloween TOOL!?? Isn't it called The $20 PROP Challenge? If I want to see tools, I can look at my last class reunion picture!

HEY, you never know. You might end up making it one day. Then what will you say? :p:D

RoxyBlue
02-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Actually, I DO have a serious question: can you use things like a leaf blower (that most of us already have) and if so, how do I price it out? I'm *not* taking it apart to use the motor or anything...I'll be using its windpower to move an object, as my wallet & brain has no access to wiper motors etc. ...(that is, IF I can make my idea work with windpower).
Is use of the leaf blower a freebie or prorated or something??

For past contests, I believe the answer to this question was, if an item is needed to make a prop work, its cost must be included in the total cost of the prop. ZombieF can clarify how the leaf blower might be priced.

Zombie-F
02-09-2010, 05:01 PM
For past contests, I believe the answer to this question was, if an item is needed to make a prop work, its cost must be included in the total cost of the prop. ZombieF can clarify how the leaf blower might be priced.

You are correct Roxy. If the prop needs the leafblower to work, then the cost of it is to be included.

The heart of the contest is this... you need to make something for $20 that somebody else can also then go out and make for $20 if they should so desire. That's why the leafblower would be added to the cost. If somebody wanted to build the prop and doesn't own the leafblower, they couldn't make the prop without getting one.

Devil
02-09-2010, 06:26 PM
You are correct Roxy. If the prop needs the leafblower to work, then the cost of it is to be included.

The heart of the contest is this... you need to make something for $20 that somebody else can also then go out and make for $20 if they should so desire. That's why the leafblower would be added to the cost. If somebody wanted to build the prop and doesn't own the leafblower, they couldn't make the prop without getting one.

So could you build a two stage prop. Say you build a $20 prop first stage. It works as a $20 prop but then if you add say a leafblower that would be the next stage. But you only enter it as a first stage prop. Is that OK?

Zombie-F
02-09-2010, 07:12 PM
So could you build a two stage prop. Say you build a $20 prop first stage. It works as a $20 prop but then if you add say a leafblower that would be the next stage. But you only enter it as a first stage prop. Is that OK?

Yes. You can do that but you would not be allowed to showcase any of the "second stage" features nor mention them in your entry.

Joiseygal
02-09-2010, 07:23 PM
I used epoxy that I bought a few years ago and I only used a pinch of it. I'm not sure how much it was when I bought it and I don't know how to price a pinch? Please help!

Zombie-F
02-09-2010, 07:33 PM
I used epoxy that I bought a few years ago and I only used a pinch of it. I'm not sure how much it was when I bought it and I don't know how to price a pinch? Please help!

A tube of 5-minute epoxy is $5, so if you used a pinch I'll be satisfied if you price it at $0.50.

Joiseygal
02-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Ok thank you Zombie-F. :)

debbie5
02-10-2010, 01:01 AM
Ummm..okay, so my idea is out cuz how can I have an inflatable & animated wind-powered prop without wind?
Grrr....(making homemade bellows)..

hpropman
02-10-2010, 12:24 PM
A cheap hair drier or computer fan might work

heresjohnny
02-10-2010, 02:23 PM
Hey Z, I have some old reindeer motors salvaged from the roadside. Found some references in the archives that priced the motors at $3 and $5 in previous $20 prop challenges. Could you give me a cost that I could use in this contest please?

heresjohnny
02-10-2010, 02:26 PM
Hey Z, one more question. If I want to take pictures of my prop in black light, do I need to include the cost of the black light? Hmm, thats 2 posts.

Hauntiholik
02-10-2010, 02:33 PM
Hey Z, one more question. If I want to take pictures of my prop in black light, do I need to include the cost of the black light? Hmm, thats 2 posts.

If the blacklight is required for the prop to work then yes you need to include it.

If you are only using the blacklight to photograph the prop you do not need to include it in the price.

Zombie-F
02-10-2010, 03:08 PM
What she said. :)

Zombie-F
02-10-2010, 03:11 PM
Hey Z, I have some old reindeer motors salvaged from the roadside. Found some references in the archives that priced the motors at $3 and $5 in previous $20 prop challenges. Could you give me a cost that I could use in this contest please?

$4 is sufficient. Price of such things hasn't changed much over the years.

Joiseygal
02-10-2010, 03:43 PM
Hey Z, I have some old reindeer motors salvaged from the roadside. Found some references in the archives that priced the motors at $3 and $5 in previous $20 prop challenges. Could you give me a cost that I could use in this contest please?

What about his first question about the reindeer motors? I priced mine at $5.00 for last years prop, but if people have it priced at $3.00 than I have $2.00 dollars to spare?


Oh forget it you beat me to it. Thanks!

GothicCandle
02-11-2010, 01:02 AM
cereal boxes would be free, right?

Zombie-F
02-11-2010, 05:09 AM
cereal boxes would be free, right?

Yes. :)

Psyc0 Walrus
02-11-2010, 09:16 PM
Hey Z i got a question. I have this really old broken TV would it count as free considering its completely broken and unfortunatly about ready to be thrown out? lol

DarkLore
02-11-2010, 09:32 PM
$4 is sufficient. Price of such things hasn't changed much over the years.

I think a price should warrant a link where others can find the part.

Electric Goldmine (http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16034)

All Electronics (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/DCM-276/5-RPM-GEAR-MOTOR-12VDC/-/1.html)

heresjohnny
02-11-2010, 11:40 PM
I think a price should warrant a link where others can find the part.

Electric Goldmine (http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16034)

All Electronics (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/DCM-276/5-RPM-GEAR-MOTOR-12VDC/-/1.html)

Those are not the motors I am referring to.

I used one of the automotive mirror/vent motors you linked to in one of my ghosts last Halloween and it burned out on me during a test. I replaced it with a motor like this http://seasonaloutlet.stores.yahoo.net/buckmotor07.html (thanks to Sickie Ickie for the link). This thing has plenty of tourqe and goes forever. It also has the advantage in a contest lilke this that you do not have to price in a 12v dc power source. New is priced at $8, so one could argue that I could charge $2.40 for one salvaged from trash heap.

These are easy to find, drive around after Christmas.

debbie5
02-11-2010, 11:51 PM
AHHhh! That's the motor I salvaged from the fugly rattan deer Igot from Curbies!! They are GOOD motors? Hmm...all mine is missing is a piece off of the rotor arm. Hmmm....NOW I'm thinkin'>>>

Erebus
02-12-2010, 07:58 AM
How much would a model train power supply be worth? I did a search on ebay for any under $5 and about 200 came up. I am trying to pick one up locally for $2.

GothicCandle
02-12-2010, 01:46 PM
yay! got started on it and it looks awesome!(well, i like it at least) so far.

Zombie-F
02-12-2010, 05:08 PM
How much would a model train power supply be worth? I did a search on ebay for any under $5 and about 200 came up. I am trying to pick one up locally for $2.

If you're able to buy one from somebody for $2, then that's the price you bill to your project.

Psyc0 Walrus
02-13-2010, 08:56 PM
I have this really old broken TV would it count as free considering its completely broken if not what would you want it to be priced at? Its very old so i doubt ill find it online anywhere

Revenant
02-14-2010, 04:27 AM
No ideas. Nada. None.

One of these days I'm going to enter this contest.

Bethene
02-14-2010, 10:40 AM
well, have come up with a glimmer of a idea, so at least that is a start, now to get busy !!see if it pans out!!

hpropman
02-14-2010, 01:03 PM
No ideas. Nada. None.

One of these days I'm going to enter this contest.

hey Rev PM me I have three ideas and I have not decided on which one yet. See if you want to try of mine. Are we allowed to help someone with building there entry?

RoxyBlue
02-14-2010, 01:04 PM
No ideas. Nada. None.

One of these days I'm going to enter this contest.

Make a papier mache sculpture of your avatar - that would be really cool:)

pyro
02-14-2010, 07:16 PM
Wheres the teaser photos?????

Joiseygal
02-14-2010, 10:35 PM
http://gremlindog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wonder-woman-large.jpg
Oh wait Pyro do you mean of our projects?

operatingnurse
02-15-2010, 12:53 AM
http://gremlindog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wonder-woman-large.jpg
Oh wait Pyro do you mean of our projects?

I think it's Wonder Man! :eek:

Zombie-F
02-15-2010, 08:01 AM
Let's not wander too far off topic here, ok guys. :D

operatingnurse
02-15-2010, 07:02 PM
Let's not wander too far off topic here, ok guys. :D

Sorry, I'll make it up to you by making a submission to the $20 Prop Challenge now.

heresjohnny
02-15-2010, 09:02 PM
hey Rev PM me I have three ideas and I have not decided on which one yet. See if you want to try of mine. Are we allowed to help someone with building there entry?

Hmm, I got an idea for ya, :devil:

Frankie-s Girl
02-16-2010, 03:48 PM
SOOOOO glad I popped on here today! I completely forgot about the prop challenge, but that is what really got me in the "spirit" last year, so I'm IN. :D

Now to get my post count up and come up with a good idea. :jol:

Zurgh
02-16-2010, 08:22 PM
A neighbor is remodeling & tossing out a ton of used carpet & foam padding. Would these be "free" as they are throwing them away? Or would they be priced as 0.3 x new cost? I don't think that it is in good enough condition be reused for its original purpose.....

Haunted Bayou
02-16-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm too pooped to prop!
Good luck with your entries.

heresjohnny
02-17-2010, 08:37 PM
I got started, Yea. It's a, well, old deer motor with some wood.....

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6413

heresjohnny
02-17-2010, 08:41 PM
I think a price should warrant a link where others can find the part.

Electric Goldmine (http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16034)

All Electronics (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/DCM-276/5-RPM-GEAR-MOTOR-12VDC/-/1.html)

I need to correct an earlier post. I am not using the motors DarkLore referenced, however I have had great success with the motors he linked to. I used one in my Leer ghost last Halloween. The motor that burned out on me was a gear motor I got a while back. I would recommend the motors referenced in DarkLore's post.

hpropman
02-17-2010, 10:01 PM
I got started, Yea. It's a, well, old deer motor with some wood.....

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6413


can't wait to see what it does!

trentsketch
02-18-2010, 11:46 AM
Ok, I'm excited.

Questions:

1) Since I'm almost surely doing something majorly composed of papier mache, would I have to account for the cost of flour in my mache mix?

2) Can leftover chicken wire/wire garden fencing purchased for last Halloween be counted as scrap for this contest? What about recovered chicken wire/wire garden fencing from an actual garden? I think I have enough left for my idea but don't want to be bending the rules too much. I'm sure I can purchase enough within the budget to build a modified version of the prop if necessary.

3) Does the prop have to be an individual item or could it be a small grouping of connected items? I can work either way if necessary.

Now to get to posting here again so I qualify for the challenge.

RoxyBlue
02-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Trent, here's what I've seen based on experience here:

#1 - The cost of flour must be included, but you can pro-rate based on what you actually use. So you know, newspaper that you might use for the mache strips is considered a free item.

#2 - I believe the purchased fencing would follow the same rule as for #1 - pro-rate cost based on amount used. ZombieF would need to make the call on recovered materials.

#3 - Last year I made a Death Drone/tombstone combination (basically two related props) as an entry and it was considered acceptable, and the two together came in under $20. ZombieF can clarify if there are any restrictions that might apply otherwise.

heresjohnny
02-18-2010, 03:48 PM
$4 is sufficient. Price of such things hasn't changed much over the years.

Hey Z, now that I have a link that shows how much the deer motors are ($8), can I use the 30% rule and charge $2.40 for one I salvaged?

http://seasonaloutlet.stores.yahoo.net/buckmotor07.html

Joiseygal
02-19-2010, 06:51 PM
Hey Z, now that I have a link that shows how much the deer motors are ($8), can I use the 30% rule and charge $2.40 for one I salvaged?

http://seasonaloutlet.stores.yahoo.net/buckmotor07.html

I'm also curious about this because my project required a reindeer motor. If it will be priced at $2.40 than I can do more to my project? I also found my reindeer motors at Curby's. :)

pyro
02-19-2010, 06:58 PM
wow i ask for teaser pics and someone is done

Zombie-F
02-20-2010, 10:58 AM
Hey Z, now that I have a link that shows how much the deer motors are ($8), can I use the 30% rule and charge $2.40 for one I salvaged?

http://seasonaloutlet.stores.yahoo.net/buckmotor07.html

Yes, that would be the most current price for a salvaged motor.

Joiseygal
02-20-2010, 01:08 PM
Yeah! Now I can do more things to my prop. :)

trentsketch
02-20-2010, 09:02 PM
I'll wait on the final call, but thanks, RoxyBlue. I'd treat the recovered chicken wire the same way as the quarter/half rolls I have lying all over the place. Someone had to buy it and it's basically the same as what I buy, only actually pulled out of a garden in November and dropped off on my doorstep. I know all too well how much the different styles cost and have the totally ripped apart sweat shirts and work gloves to prove it. :jol:

The mache idea came from the knowledge that newspaper was considered free. With the right support, I can use my weaker, waterier base to build the project. Now it's a matter of balancing out the budget (once pro-rating of wire is confirmed/denied) to account for enough paint for what I have planned.

If I can't make that work, I have no shortage of prop ideas that are clearly based in the existing rules.

LairMistress
02-22-2010, 02:10 PM
Well, I guess I'd better put my brain back in, and get to thinkin'...and posting, as well. :) Goodness knows I've got a ton of cheap/free stuff I could use, I just have to find a way to make it interesting.

debbie5
02-22-2010, 10:58 PM
(text deleted as it was silly)

heresjohnny
02-25-2010, 10:16 PM
Arr, it's a peice of wood that will hopefully look cool some day.

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6566

Joiseygal
02-25-2010, 10:40 PM
Arr, it's a peice of wood that will hopefully look cool some day.

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6566

Looks cool already. I'm curious to see what you will use it for???

heresjohnny
02-28-2010, 09:30 PM
Here is a head from newspaper, cardboard and packing tape that will be part of my prop. Anybody else built anything?

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6655

funkdaddy
03-01-2010, 11:13 PM
I am going to give it a try this year. I have been making my own propsfor a few years now. I have noticed some of the people I have used for inspiration are actually members of this site. It is cool to compete against such talented people.

madmomma
03-02-2010, 10:16 AM
I'm working on a paper mache type prop. Still futzin' with the armature. Will post a picture when it actually looks like something, not just random wire!

Joiseygal
03-02-2010, 10:29 AM
I took this picture before using paper mache. I'm currently waiting for the paper mache to dry than I go to the painting stage. I thought I would post this picture for a teaser. I'm really excited about this prop because it will give the creepy effect I need so bad in my Halloween display. Also I might not be using any blood (red paint) for this prop...I know isn't that crazy!!!!
http://www.hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=343&pictureid=6670

madmomma
03-02-2010, 11:20 AM
Nice Sharon, I have a picture in my mind already! Can't wait to see it completed!

funkdaddy
03-02-2010, 02:46 PM
Just got started on my entry. Looking good so far. I think the hardest part is going to be getting 30 posts in by April 30th, lol.

heresjohnny
03-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Just got started on my entry. Looking good so far. I think the hardest part is going to be getting 30 posts in by April 30th, lol.

Well, that is 2 today. And I just added another one :googly:

RoxyBlue
03-02-2010, 03:42 PM
(psssst - funk and johnny - go to the Games section and you'll have that 30 posts in about 20 minutes:D)

jaege
03-02-2010, 10:02 PM
So how will I know if I have the requisite 30 posts? I have an idea for a prop that I wanted to build anyway, so this will just push me to do it sooner rather than later.

Zombie-F
03-02-2010, 10:43 PM
So how will I know if I have the requisite 30 posts? I have an idea for a prop that I wanted to build anyway, so this will just push me to do it sooner rather than later.

It's easy. Just do a search for posts made by you. The results are listed in order from newest to oldest, 25 per page. So, to figure out if you are in or not, all 30 of your most recent posts must be made on or after January 31st, 2010.

MistressWitch
03-04-2010, 12:39 AM
So Zombie, do you ever get tired of answering questions and have you considered keeping track of questions this year to add them to next year's rules or contest FAQ's?

Zombie-F
03-04-2010, 01:30 AM
So Zombie, do you ever get tired of answering questions and have you considered keeping track of questions this year to add them to next year's rules or contest FAQ's?

I do keep track and do update the rules every year... and it never seems to matter. lol

Otaku
03-04-2010, 10:30 AM
It's easy. Just do a search for posts made by you. The results are listed in order from newest to oldest, 25 per page. So, to figure out if you are in or not, all 30 of your most recent posts must be made on or after January 31st, 2010.

I tried doing that, but the posts aren't actually dated - they read something like "1 week ago", "4 weeks ago" and so on. Is there a way to get the specific post date?

Bethene
03-04-2010, 09:39 PM
man, I can't believe how many have started working, I am still figuring things out in my head, pretty much think I have at least part of it, been doing research, sorta, such as it is,

BRAinDead
03-04-2010, 09:45 PM
nevermind

Spartan005
03-04-2010, 11:59 PM
Sorry for being annoying but I decided to make a prop without thinking about entering it into the contest. I wound up using a pelvis and arms from an old blucky I corpsed a few years ago. It's already attached to the rest of the prop and I'm going to re paint the entire thing. Can that be considered for entry or not?

Hauntiholik
03-05-2010, 09:28 AM
Sorry for being annoying but I decided to make a prop without thinking about entering it into the contest. I wound up using a pelvis and arms from an old blucky I corpsed a few years ago. It's already attached to the rest of the prop and I'm going to re paint the entire thing. Can that be considered for entry or not?

I'm not sure. The prop is a new prop that consisted of older parts that you put together after the contest started?

Spartan005
03-05-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm not sure. The prop is a new prop that consisted of older parts that you put together after the contest started?

Yeah. the pelvis from the blucky was already 'corpsed" with great stuff and cobwebs, but I was hoping i could just paper mache over the whole thing and then paint it so its really just used as a base.

Zombie-F
03-05-2010, 06:51 PM
Yeah. the pelvis from the blucky was already 'corpsed" with great stuff and cobwebs, but I was hoping i could just paper mache over the whole thing and then paint it so its really just used as a base.

You can use it but you will still need to include the cost of the bucky parts in your build.

haunted canuck
03-06-2010, 02:18 PM
Ok my item is blacklight responsive, however It does work without the blacklight it just doesnt appear the same when photographed or vidioed, Do I have to include the price of the blacklight if i want to enter my photo or vidio under those elements?I would like to show the prop under those conditions however the price of the blacklight puts it over budget Again it doesnt make the prop itself different just the lighting

heresjohnny
03-06-2010, 04:57 PM
Z already answered this one for me, if you are using the blacklight to photograph, but the black light is not part of the prop, you do not need to include the cost of the blacklight.

jaege
03-06-2010, 05:04 PM
man, I can't believe how many have started working, I am still figuring things out in my head, pretty much think I have at least part of it, been doing research, sorta, such as it is,

I have already collected all the parts and have stated to make my entry. Better get a move on!!:jol:

heresjohnny
03-06-2010, 07:06 PM
Here is a fun picture of part my prop.

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6716

Bethene
03-06-2010, 09:35 PM
yeah, I know Jaege!! you guys are leaving me in the dust!!

Draik41895
03-06-2010, 10:22 PM
I remember reading about the price of a picture printed of the computers, but i couldn't find it , what would be a reasonable price?

Spartan005
03-07-2010, 02:40 AM
Damnit. I hate paper mache. So much. Why does it exist?

stupid, stupid mache.

jaege
03-07-2010, 08:32 AM
I remember reading about the price of a picture printed of the computers, but i couldn't find it , what would be a reasonable price?


The local Staples will let you print things for 8 cents a copy, if that helps.

Joiseygal
03-07-2010, 08:46 AM
Here is a fun picture of part my prop.

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6716

Looks pretty cool so far. I love how the eyes glows. Looking forward to seeing the finished prop.

STOLLOWEEN
03-07-2010, 09:55 AM
Damnit. I hate paper mache. So much. Why does it exist?

stupid, stupid mache.

Ouch...that really hurt me....really, really hurt :)

Zombie-F
03-07-2010, 09:58 AM
Z already answered this one for me, if you are using the blacklight to photograph, but the black light is not part of the prop, you do not need to include the cost of the blacklight.

That's partly right. If there is a feature of the prop that glows under black light and you plan on showing that feature of the prop in your entry, then the cost of the light is to be added into your build total.

If the light puts you over budget, just photograph it without the blacklight.

Zombie-F
03-07-2010, 09:59 AM
The local Staples will let you print things for 8 cents a copy, if that helps.

That sounds reasonable to me.

hpropman
03-07-2010, 12:31 PM
That's partly right. If there is a feature of the prop that glows under black light and you plan on showing that feature of the prop in your entry, then the cost of the light is to be added into your build total.

If the light puts you over budget, just photograph it without the blacklight.

Make some small spots with UV leds and resistors. You can get them on Ebay for very cheap (15 cents or so per led with resistors). Send a PM to Vlad he gets the leds for our M&Ts and he can point you to a good seller. Just might make your budget.

Spartan005
03-07-2010, 02:35 PM
Ouch...that really hurt me....really, really hurt :)

I don't know how you do it... your work is awesome. but god that stuff is so irritating

Draik41895
03-07-2010, 02:57 PM
you know what? I love garage sales!and the dollar tree!

heresjohnny
03-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Okay I am confused. Three weeks ago I asked about black light and the conversation went:

Hey Z, one more question. If I want to take pictures of my prop in black light, do I need to include the cost of the black light? Hmm, thats 2 posts.

If the blacklight is required for the prop to work then yes you need to include it.

If you are only using the blacklight for to photograph the prop you do not need to include it in the price.

What she said. :)

Now the word is:

That's partly right. If there is a feature of the prop that glows under black light and you plan on showing that feature of the prop in your entry, then the cost of the light is to be added into your build total.

If the light puts you over budget, just photograph it without the blacklight.

I am build a moving ghost that uses cheese cloth, it works just fine without black light, but it does look better with black light. So can I use black light in the photos or not?

Devil
03-07-2010, 04:03 PM
So don't you hate when you have a prop all planned out and it does not work out. You get everything together start building it and it just does not look like the way you plan it to look.

Zombie-F
03-07-2010, 06:37 PM
Your question mentioned no feature of the prop that needs black light to function. If it is required to make a part of the prop function (ie make glowing paint glow or make it glow at all) then you need to include it in your cost. If it's simply being used as a light to illuminate the prop and doesn't cause any glowing then you don't need to include it.

I re-read Haunti's reply and that seemed pretty clear to me but I guess it wasn't.

Okay I am confused. Three weeks ago I asked about black light and the conversation went:







Now the word is:



I am build a moving ghost that uses cheese cloth, it works just fine without black light, but it does look better with black light. So can I use black light in the photos or not?

heresjohnny
03-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Your question mentioned no feature of the prop that needs black light to function. If it is required to make a part of the prop function (ie make glowing paint glow or make it glow at all) then you need to include it in your cost. If it's simply being used as a light to illuminate the prop and doesn't cause any glowing then you don't need to include it.

I re-read Haunti's reply and that seemed pretty clear to me but I guess it wasn't.

I don't agree that this is part of making the prop function, in fact to me this would extend into any lighting effects used while photographing the entry to highlight or otherwise enhance the appearance of the prop. But I will honor your ruling. Am I free to use non-UV lighting while photographing my prop, without including the cost of the lights used? For example, non-UV colored lights? Or are we only allowed to use white light?

Zombie-F
03-07-2010, 09:18 PM
I don't agree that this is part of making the prop function, in fact to me this would extend into any lighting effects used while photographing the entry to highlight or otherwise enhance the appearance of the prop. But I will honor your ruling. Am I free to use non-UV lighting while photographing my prop, without including the cost of the lights used? For example, non-UV colored lights? Or are we only allowed to use white light?

Lighting something with a red light vs. a UV light that will make it glow are two different things. Making it glow goes a little above and beyond just lighting it with a colored light.

If it needs UV light to glow, then you need to cost the UV light into the project. If the paint/dye/whatever is phosphorescent (meaning it can take in ambient light and glow on it's own once said light is removed) then clearly no cost of UV light is needed as any light (sun, light bulb, whatever) can create the effect.

MistressWitch
03-07-2010, 10:00 PM
So, if I understand this lighting issue correctly-

If the prop is designed to glow under blacklight, for instance if I've used neon paint that I want to show up in the dark because that is needed for the prop to work or look "right", then I need to assume whoever is following my directions to make a duplicate copy of the prop I make doesn't have a black light and will need to purchase one- so the cost of the blacklight must be included in the cost of building the prop. An example of this would be the glow in the dark polka-dot rooms I have been seeing online. Without the blacklight the polka-dots don't glow like they are intended to, so the cost of the blacklight would need to be included.

But if I was making a ghost out of a styrofoam ball, some cheese-cloth, a wire to hang it up and make "arms", and some liquid starch to get the cloth to hold an etherial shape, I only need to include the cost of those 4 items, even if I photograph the ghost under a blacklight, because the ghost will be a ghost and will look like a ghost with or without the blacklight. And perhaps after the instructions and cost are written up, in a "creator's notes" byline I could include "and if you have a blacklight it looks even better", or something along those lines? Or if I put a fan under it to move it that could be mentioned too but the fan isn't required to make it look like a ghost so it wouldn't need to be included in the cost of materials.

Do I have it right?

divinedragon7
03-08-2010, 11:35 PM
alright i have a couple of questions

1. i know how you measure the price of recycled wood but what about metal? i live near a desert where people go and dump stuff. someone dumpped a couch, i cut into it and pulled out some of the springs. does this count as free? or should i use the price i was quoted at the local recycleing center for the metal i planned to use?

2. part of my prop i built for this contest is elegable for another contest, if i entered it in the other contest would it disquallifie me from this one?

divinedragon7
03-08-2010, 11:49 PM
also, dead light bulbs? not the whole thing just the filiment from it. would that be free because everyone has dead light bulbs?

and dead batteries.

The Watcher
03-09-2010, 07:15 PM
How much should be figured for old shoes or jeans. Would it be the actual cost if I bought them at yard sale or hot line?

abner135
03-09-2010, 07:16 PM
I have good idea and way out idea I'll try the way ones

Spartan005
03-10-2010, 01:10 AM
How much should be figured for old shoes or jeans. Would it be the actual cost if I bought them at yard sale or hot line?

I asked the same thing last year about a dummy I bought at a garage sale. As long as the price you paid isn't ridiculous (common example is a bucky for 5 bucks) then you should be good.

The Watcher
03-10-2010, 06:42 AM
I asked the same thing last year about a dummy I bought at a garage sale. As long as the price you paid isn't ridiculous (common example is a bucky for 5 bucks) then you should be good.

Thanks, I bought some old pants at hot line yesterday for a 1.99. But the shoes I looked at where 3.50. Well that would limit what I do. I still have old shoes in boxes that were from the the kids up in the attic. That I could use. But didn't know what to figure for cost. My wife says they are cheaper at yard sales. It is one of those things were the condition doesn't matter. If I had time I could get them from our recycle for free. That is why I was wondering. I know I am going to build the prop. But didn't know about entering it.

Volscalkur
03-12-2010, 12:56 PM
Ok I read through the pages here and the rules page to make sure I'm not asking a question thats already been answered so here goes!

-I have several large heavy duty cardboard tubes I got from a local upholstery shop for free. Fabric comes rolled on them and they throw out the tube when the fabric is gone. I'm sure most upholstery shops anywhere would give them away to anyone that asked, or you could score them out of their trash.

What should I put as a price on those or would they be considered recycled?

Thanks!

RoxyBlue
03-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Volscalkur, my experience here with previous contests is that cardboard falls into the category of a recyclable and is therefore considered free.

Volscalkur
03-12-2010, 01:21 PM
Awesome!
Thanks for the quick response RoxyBlue! Guess my zombie's got some backbone for free now! :)

Upholstery shops are a great source for lots of things that can be useful to haunters! If anyone has one in their area try talking to someone there, they can hook you up with everything from tubes, scrap foam, Dacron stuffing to scrap fabric and old chair springs!
:smileton:

Zombie-F
03-12-2010, 02:56 PM
Ok I read through the pages here and the rules page to make sure I'm not asking a question thats already been answered so here goes!

-I have several large heavy duty cardboard tubes I got from a local upholstery shop for free. Fabric comes rolled on them and they throw out the tube when the fabric is gone. I'm sure most upholstery shops anywhere would give them away to anyone that asked, or you could score them out of their trash.

What should I put as a price on those or would they be considered recycled?

Thanks!

That would be a correct statement. Cardboard materials are free!

Volscalkur, my experience here with previous contests is that cardboard falls into the category of a recyclable and is therefore considered free.

heresjohnny
03-12-2010, 04:07 PM
I am bouncing this question, have not seen a response for it.

So, if I understand this lighting issue correctly-

If the prop is designed to glow under blacklight, for instance if I've used neon paint that I want to show up in the dark because that is needed for the prop to work or look "right", then I need to assume whoever is following my directions to make a duplicate copy of the prop I make doesn't have a black light and will need to purchase one- so the cost of the blacklight must be included in the cost of building the prop. An example of this would be the glow in the dark polka-dot rooms I have been seeing online. Without the blacklight the polka-dots don't glow like they are intended to, so the cost of the blacklight would need to be included.

But if I was making a ghost out of a styrofoam ball, some cheese-cloth, a wire to hang it up and make "arms", and some liquid starch to get the cloth to hold an etherial shape, I only need to include the cost of those 4 items, even if I photograph the ghost under a blacklight, because the ghost will be a ghost and will look like a ghost with or without the blacklight. And perhaps after the instructions and cost are written up, in a "creator's notes" byline I could include "and if you have a blacklight it looks even better", or something along those lines? Or if I put a fan under it to move it that could be mentioned too but the fan isn't required to make it look like a ghost so it wouldn't need to be included in the cost of materials.

Do I have it right?

Hauntiholik
03-12-2010, 05:58 PM
MistressWitch - you have it right.

heresjohnny
03-12-2010, 08:09 PM
MistressWitch - you have it right.

I have to ask again, can I photograph a ghost that includes cheese cloth with a black light for contest photos and videos without including the cost of the black light. I thought I was told quite clearly by Zombie that I could not, but now MistressWith is being told she can. Which one is it?

I'll submit either way, I would just appreciate a clear and consistent answer.

Hauntiholik
03-12-2010, 08:51 PM
I have to ask again, can I photograph a ghost that includes cheese cloth with a black light for contest photos and videos without including the cost of the black light. I thought I was told quite clearly by Zombie that I could not, but now MistressWith is being told she can. Which one is it?

I'll submit either way, I would just appreciate a clear and consistent answer.

I was the person who answered you.


Hey Z, one more question. If I want to take pictures of my prop in black light, do I need to include the cost of the black light? Hmm, thats 2 posts.
If the blacklight is required for the prop to work then yes you need to include it.

If you are only using the blacklight to photograph the prop you do not need to include it in the price.

MistressWitch was correct. If the blacklight is required to make the prop work then it must be included in the cost of the build. She gave an example of making a ghost. The ghost is still a ghost whether or not the blacklight is used for photographing it.

Her other example was for a dot room. A dot room will not work without a blacklight to make the dots glow which makes the prop/room.

Still unclear?

heresjohnny
03-12-2010, 09:36 PM
I was the person who answered you.



MistressWitch was correct. If the blacklight is required to make the prop work then it must be included in the cost of the build. She gave an example of making a ghost. The ghost is still a ghost whether or not the blacklight is used for photographing it.

Her other example was for a dot room. A dot room will not work without a blacklight to make the dots glow which makes the prop/room.

Still unclear?

I must be going senile.:confused:

Zombie said
Your question mentioned no feature of the prop that needs black light to function. If it is required to make a part of the prop function (ie make glowing paint glow or make it glow at all) then you need to include it in your cost. If it's simply being used as a light to illuminate the prop and doesn't cause any glowing then you don't need to include it.

I re-read Haunti's reply and that seemed pretty clear to me but I guess it wasn't.

My understanding is that Zombie told me if the black light makes part of the prop glow, then the light needs to be included. Untreated cheese cloth glows in black light, and cheese cloth soaked in whitening detergent really glows, so I interpreted that as meaning the black light was part of making the prop function. Yet you seem to be saying that I can photograph a cheese cloth ghost with a black light and I do not need to include the cost of the light.

Let me ask 2 very specific questions, and if I can get a clear answer to these 2 questions than I think even I can understand it.

1. If my prop is a ghost made of cheese cloth, and the cheese cloth has not been soaked in detergent, can I submit photos and videos of the ghost using black light without including the cost of the black light?

2. If my prop is a ghost made of cheese cloth, and the cheese cloth has been soaked in RIT or a whitening detergent, can I submit photos and videos of the ghost using black light without including the cost of the black light?

Thank you, and I will not bug you about this again. :D

Hauntiholik
03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Clearly you and Dave need to take this to PMs.

Any white material will glow using a blacklight without being treated. If you are going to the trouble to soak material using RIT whitener (you must include the cost of the RIT whitener) then the blacklight should be included in the cost of the build.

MistressWitch did not say whitener in her example. She said starch to hold the shape of the fabric. I am not aware of starch acting as a whitener so I may have misspoke. If starch does act as a whitener then the cost of the blacklight would have to be included.

Draik41895
03-13-2010, 01:23 AM
so...heres a neat question: If I took a broken plasticy drawer handle off of a broken drawer in a broken desk, that was in the trash, Any idea how much it would cost?

Also, If I bought something that had hot glue on it, but im just heating it up and using it,does it count as free? or do i put it down as pro rated hot glue?

Hauntiholik
03-13-2010, 09:22 AM
so...heres a neat question: If I took a broken plasticy drawer handle off of a broken drawer in a broken desk, that was in the trash, Any idea how much it would cost?

Also, If I bought something that had hot glue on it, but im just heating it up and using it,does it count as free? or do i put it down as pro rated hot glue?

The hot glue needs to be pro-rated.
As far as the drawer handle, it is not free. What would a drawer handle from home depot cost?

jaege
03-13-2010, 03:43 PM
I would assume that the pro-rated cost of a dab of hot glue would be pennies. Are you so close in cost that you cannot squeeze out a penny?

BoysinBoo
03-13-2010, 04:46 PM
Hey everybody,

It's been a while since I posted. Over the last nine months, I've gotten a new (much improved) job, sold my old house, and am just over two months from having a new house (much more haunt-friendly) completed.

I can't say that I haven't been popping in and checking up on everybody from time to time, but I haven't actually posted in what feels like forever. I guess I felt like I didn't have anything to contribute. In the house staging process, all of my props and supplies went into off-site storage. A local friend (she's a lurker) called the other day to ask what I was doing for the prop challenge. I told her I wasn't planning on it. I thought she was gonna crawl through the phone and come after me. Long story short...

I have assembled the basics of my prop. Now I just have to catch up on my posts so that I can qualify... Oh, yeah, and I have to build the thing.

Basic Supplies...Check!

And, yes. That's a rubber chicken.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg162/BoysinBoo/2010%20Prop%20Challenge/BasicSupplies.jpg

RoxyBlue
03-13-2010, 04:49 PM
Okay, now this one has me intrigued, BoysinBoo. It has all the makings of an evil vaudevillian prop:D

Draik41895
03-13-2010, 06:14 PM
I would assume that the pro-rated cost of a dab of hot glue would be pennies. Are you so close in cost that you cannot squeeze out a penny?

lol no, not counting the handle Im way under, and even with it I will be

BoysinBoo
03-13-2010, 06:30 PM
Paint stir sticks...how much? They were free,but I guess they are kinda like firring strips. Just wanna be fair.

Hauntiholik
03-13-2010, 07:03 PM
Paint stir sticks...how much? They were free,but I guess they are kinda like firring strips. Just wanna be fair.

*my opinion here* paint sticks are free to everyone so I would call it free. ZF may say otherwise though.

jaege
03-13-2010, 10:58 PM
lol no, not counting the handle Im way under, and even with it I will be

So you are just asking to annoy poor put upon Hauntiholik? Shame on you.

Bethene
03-14-2010, 01:40 AM
BoysinBoo, what a interesting group of supplies, can't wait to see what you make with it!

jaege
03-14-2010, 06:37 AM
A rubber chicken. That has got to be something interesting!!

Zombie-F
03-14-2010, 11:46 AM
so...heres a neat question: If I took a broken plasticy drawer handle off of a broken drawer in a broken desk, that was in the trash, Any idea how much it would cost?

Also, If I bought something that had hot glue on it, but im just heating it up and using it,does it count as free? or do i put it down as pro rated hot glue?

The drawer handle would be the cost of a new drawer handle (Lowe's, Home Depot, Hardware stores have them) multiplied by 0.3. So for example, if a new handle cost $1.00, a used one would be $0.30.

Hot glue on the other hand, will have to be pro-rated. From the sounds of it, you aren't using much so it'd be pennies.

Paint stir sticks...how much? They were free,but I guess they are kinda like firring strips. Just wanna be fair.

Stirrers would be considered free. You can go into any paint store and walk out with a handful of them for nothing.

ScreamingScarecrow
03-14-2010, 09:00 PM
Aw c'mon - this is a totally stupid suggestion. Be serious will you!








The craft would burn up on re-entry for goodness sake!

:D

:) Not if you built special heat deflecting shields out of the toilet paper rolls!
jeez! :)

ScreamingScarecrow
03-14-2010, 09:54 PM
OK! First Timer here! I'm going to join the contest this year because;
#1 - its going to be fun!
#2 - my wife is getting tired of tripping over this empty cardboard box that I've been saving since Christmas when we got a new TV Stand!
It is 55 inches long and 21 inches wide and I know excatly what I'm going to do with it!

This IS where we're supposed to post teasers isn't it? :jol:

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr135/ScreamingScarecrow/2010PropChal/P6230195.jpg

hpropman
03-14-2010, 10:44 PM
Hey that is a nice box! very creepy, that will send some tots running :D

abner135
03-15-2010, 07:04 PM
$20 Prop Challenge cost requirements dose the rule for wood go for The Home Depot end cut. They have a cart full of bend and end cut at 51 cents each all sizes ,do I still have to go by the wood rule:xbones:

jaege
03-15-2010, 09:45 PM
Thats a good idea. I would assume we would pay actual cost if its less, and anyone could get it at the same price.

Joiseygal
03-16-2010, 12:15 AM
Ok I just finished painting my $20 contest prop. I figure after I get the supply list, pictures and a video I should have it posted in the next couple of days. I love this contest because it really gets me excited about the outcome of a Halloween prop. It really makes me want to start on another project right away. If anything I am thrilled to have a Halloween prop to add to my display that I'm very proud of. :) YAY!

heresjohnny
03-16-2010, 12:37 AM
All that is left on mine is adding some cheese cloth. I am ready to be done also, but if I start another prop after this one she will kill me, then I will be a prop.

Joiseygal
03-16-2010, 08:37 AM
All that is left on mine is adding some cheese cloth. I am ready to be done also, but if I start another prop after this one she will kill me, then I will be a prop.

Hmmm....I'm curious if you would fall under recyclable for next years $20 dollar entry??? So how can I contact your wife?.....lol. :) I'm looking forward to seeing your entry heresjohnny.

heresjohnny
03-16-2010, 09:20 AM
Hmmm....I'm curious if you would fall under recyclable for next years $20 dollar entry??? So how can I contact your wife?.....lol. :) I'm looking forward to seeing your entry heresjohnny.

Looking forward to seeing yours also!

jaege
03-16-2010, 11:23 AM
Ok I just finished painting my $20 contest prop. I figure after I get the supply list, pictures and a video I should have it posted in the next couple of days. I love this contest because it really gets me excited about the outcome of a Halloween prop. It really makes me want to start on another project right away. If anything I am thrilled to have a Halloween prop to add to my display that I'm very proud of. :) YAY!

I agree. It does get me in the mood for building props. Also I get to see other creations that I know I will be able to build for 20 dollars or less. I plan on trying my hand at a few I have seen from prior contests.

heresjohnny
03-16-2010, 04:25 PM
Oh, I stayed up too late the last two nights working on my prop, I am so close to being done. I am probably too tired to work on it tonight, but maybe tomorrow I can wrap it up.

http://hauntforum.com/picture.php?albumid=456&pictureid=6837

RoxyBlue
03-16-2010, 05:46 PM
He looks like he's getting ready to take out a quarterback, HJ:)

heresjohnny
03-16-2010, 07:06 PM
He looks like he's getting ready to take out a quarterback, HJ:)

Ha, you got me, its a Zombie Linebacker!

ScreamingScarecrow
03-17-2010, 12:46 PM
I agree this contest is a great motivator! I can't remember the last time I built a prop this early in the year! I think maybe 2003 or so!
I'm also, almost ready to post my entry!

heresjohnny
03-17-2010, 01:41 PM
Went home for lunch again to work on my prop. Not only am I losing sleep, I am losing weight!

RoxyBlue
03-17-2010, 01:44 PM
All this teasing and no new threads showing the finished props yet! C'mon, you heartless people, get a move on so that Skelesconce won't be so lonely anymore and we can stop jonesing for photos:D:googly:

Oh, and if anyone made a Zombie Quarterback, watch out for Heresjohnny's prop:eek:

Wildcat
03-17-2010, 06:11 PM
I've uploaded mine for ya Roxy. I didn't/won't have the time to put into it as I did last year but It's better than not entering at all.

Now just have to wait to see when it gets displayed.

Otaku
03-17-2010, 07:23 PM
Just uploaded my entry!

Wildcat
03-17-2010, 08:37 PM
Cool. Good luck.

STOLLOWEEN
03-17-2010, 08:47 PM
Here's a teaser picture showing part of my entry....still a long way from completion. Surprise...it's papier mache. If I can work this right my entry will be my 666th post :)

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z118/STOLLOWEEN/SCOTTSCULPTINGPROPCHALLENGE.jpg

RoxyBlue
03-17-2010, 09:02 PM
Hugs and kisses to Wildcat and Otaku!:kisskin: Looking forward to seeing what you guys came up with.

Stolloween, be sure you send that prop to me for final approval. It's a new rule - really!:D:googly:

Zombie-F
03-17-2010, 09:25 PM
Two more approved today, go check 'em out!

ScreamingScarecrow
03-17-2010, 10:21 PM
Yikes Stolloween! Your teaser Pic already looks Killer!

heresjohnny
03-18-2010, 08:35 AM
Looking sweet Stolloween! 2 more entries, must keep building, must keep....

spideranne
03-18-2010, 09:16 PM
I'm almost done with mine...in my head. In real life haven't actually started...

Joiseygal
03-19-2010, 04:25 PM
Here's a teaser picture showing part of my entry....still a long way from completion. Surprise...it's papier mache. If I can work this right my entry will be my 666th post :)

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z118/STOLLOWEEN/SCOTTSCULPTINGPROPCHALLENGE.jpg

Oh wow that is looking so cool! I can't wait to see the outcome!

Bethene
03-19-2010, 10:30 PM
Stolloween- wow, too cool!!
a quick question, (sorry Zombie F) can dryer lint clay be used, and any cost factor?

Toktorill
03-21-2010, 12:34 AM
Hmm, 41 days to make ANYTHING with $20?

Now THAT sounds like a challenge. :p

Joiseygal
03-21-2010, 01:03 AM
Toktorill I hope you decide to make something. I just finished my $20 dollar project and I'm just waiting for Zombie-F to post it. :)

Toktorill
03-21-2010, 11:47 AM
Toktorill I hope you decide to make something. I just finished my $20 dollar project and I'm just waiting for Zombie-F to post it. :)Yeah, I think I'll give it a try. Though it will be a real change from my regular style of prop building- I usually only get 2-3 weeks for the entire haunt. "Super-cheap" is my specialty, though. ;)

A question about ingredients: I have salvaged a few (bent to heck) threaded rods/nuts/washers from wooden wire spools at work, about 1' long each. Would those count as recycled packing material (free) as they were part of a disposable item, or do I need to pro-rate 30% to an shiny new store-bought item? I've sourced a 36" threaded rod for $2.29, so would each 1' rod count 23 cents against my $20? ((2.29*.3)/3)?

RoxyBlue
03-21-2010, 02:54 PM
Stolloween- wow, too cool!!
a quick question, (sorry Zombie F) can dryer lint clay be used, and any cost factor?

I believe the answer is, the lint is free, but anything other ingredient you would have to purchase to mix it with to make the clay (like white glue or flour) would have to be pro-rated based on amount used.

heresjohnny
03-21-2010, 04:26 PM
Toktorill, yes, build something!

Joiseygal, I finished and posted mine last night also. Now we just need Zombie to wake up from his nap :D

Zombie-F
03-22-2010, 07:56 AM
Stolloween- wow, too cool!!
a quick question, (sorry Zombie F) can dryer lint clay be used, and any cost factor?

Yes, dryer lint clay can be used. The lint itself is free, but any items you use to mix it into clay form will have to be added to the cost.

jaege
03-22-2010, 08:45 AM
There have been some pretty cool entries so far. The creativity of this group astounds me. If we could only harness that power for good.

Toktorill
03-23-2010, 07:56 PM
If we could only harness that power for good.
:devil: Scaring people IS good! :devil: Are you sure your in the right forum? Bwha ha ha! :devil:

Uruk-Hai
03-24-2010, 09:10 AM
I had a quick question for Zombie-F regarding cost of wire. I'm using some heavy gauge wire I recovered from those damn advertising signs that pop up like weeds in the neighbourhood. They're the type that has a printed plastic sleeve over a bent wire frame stuck in the ground. I throw out the plastic sign and keep the wire. It's about 3/16" thick and about 36" when bent out straight.

Would they be considered free or what do you feel the wire would be rated at?

This will be my first time entering and just trying to figure out everything as I go. It's certainly going to be a challenge to keep it under $20 - especially now that the Canadian dollar is almost at par! :)

heresjohnny
03-24-2010, 09:21 AM
I had a quick question for Zombie-F regarding cost of wire. I'm using some heavy gauge wire I recovered from those damn advertising signs that pop up like weeds in the neighbourhood. They're the type that has a printed plastic sleeve over a bent wire frame stuck in the ground. I throw out the plastic sign and keep the wire. It's about 3/16" thick and about 36" when bent out straight.

Would they be considered free or what do you feel the wire would be rated at?

This will be my first time entering and just trying to figure out everything as I go. It's certainly going to be a challenge to keep it under $20 - especially now that the Canadian dollar is almost at par! :)

I'm not official or anything, but I think the wire should equal the worth of what those signs usually say...Nothing.

jaege
03-24-2010, 12:01 PM
:devil: Scaring people IS good! :devil: Are you sure your in the right forum? Bwha ha ha! :devil:

Okay, then if we could only harness that power to make me money....

Toktorill
03-24-2010, 07:59 PM
Okay, then if we could only harness that power to make me money....I'm sure if you did it right, it would. Last year we harnessed that power to make $1500... for the Boys and Girls Club. And received enough food bank donations to overflow a shopping cart. People were only paying $2-$3 a head (2 w/ food donation).

NOW A $20 PROP QUESTION! (Asked last page but didn't see a reply)

Concerning ingredients: I have salvaged a few (bent to heck) threaded rods/nuts/washers from wooden wire spools at work, about 1' long each. Would those count as recycled packing material (free) as they were part of a disposable item, or do I need to pro-rate 30% to an shiny new store-bought item? I've sourced a 36" threaded rod for $2.29, so would each 1' rod count 23 cents against my $20? ((2.29*.3)/3)?

Happy Haunting!

Zombie-F
03-24-2010, 11:02 PM
NOW A $20 PROP QUESTION! (Asked last page but didn't see a reply)

Concerning ingredients: I have salvaged a few (bent to heck) threaded rods/nuts/washers from wooden wire spools at work, about 1' long each. Would those count as recycled packing material (free) as they were part of a disposable item, or do I need to pro-rate 30% to an shiny new store-bought item? I've sourced a 36" threaded rod for $2.29, so would each 1' rod count 23 cents against my $20? ((2.29*.3)/3)?

Happy Haunting!

Precisely.... 23 cents.

The only things that count as recyclable are things like newspaper, cardboard, bottles, cans, etc... things everyone would have free access to. Freebies that are exclusive to your situation are not counted as recyclable.

The intent of the contest is that anyone else out there should be able to make your prop for $20 even if they don't have access to the same "free" materials you may have access to.

Toktorill
03-25-2010, 09:48 PM
The intent of the contest is that anyone else out there should be able to make your prop for $20 even if they don't have access to the same "free" materials you may have access to.Thanks, I should have thought of that- that keeps everything fair, and the ideas accessible to everyone! :D

Zombie-F
03-25-2010, 09:56 PM
I had a quick question for Zombie-F regarding cost of wire. I'm using some heavy gauge wire I recovered from those damn advertising signs that pop up like weeds in the neighbourhood. They're the type that has a printed plastic sleeve over a bent wire frame stuck in the ground. I throw out the plastic sign and keep the wire. It's about 3/16" thick and about 36" when bent out straight.

Would they be considered free or what do you feel the wire would be rated at?

This will be my first time entering and just trying to figure out everything as I go. It's certainly going to be a challenge to keep it under $20 - especially now that the Canadian dollar is almost at par! :)

I'll allow that as free. It's sort of like coat hanger wire and I consider that free for the contest.

Joiseygal
03-26-2010, 07:04 AM
So how is everyone coming along with their entries? How many more people are still entering? I'm looking forward to seeing more great ideas. :) Keep them coming!!!!

Uruk-Hai
03-26-2010, 08:08 AM
So how is everyone coming along with their entries? How many more people are still entering? I'm looking forward to seeing more great ideas. :) Keep them coming!!!!

It's not our fault you finished so early on in the game!! ;)

Here's a teaser pic of my entry I'm working on. I scored big and found a pair of old beat up wooden antique piano legs for $5 at a country market. Then I had to figure out something to use them on! I won't be finished for a while yet - it will probably be right up to the last day knowing how slow I work.

http://www.hectorturner.com/halloween/hauntforum/teaser.jpg

Joiseygal
03-26-2010, 08:38 AM
http://www.hectorturner.com/halloween/hauntforum/teaser.jpg

Now you have a nice set of legs! :) Thanks for the teaser and I'm looking forward to seeing your project when you get it done. :)

jaege
03-26-2010, 05:24 PM
I am still making one. I will be working on it this weekend. Since the price must be low, the labor must be high.

madmomma
03-26-2010, 05:27 PM
My original plans didn't work out too well so on to another! I'm not a quitter (just a procrastinator, sometimes...) :)

hpropman
03-26-2010, 05:39 PM
I am still working on mine. I have been collecting sound bytes for it. Here is a subtle hint "By your command" Now I need to actually build the prop. I can also tell you that It will be using some of the leds that we purchased for the make and take on it.

Hauntiholik
03-26-2010, 06:21 PM
...Here is a subtle hint "By your command"
Are you building a silver cylon or the sexier "6" version? Hubba-hubba.

hpropman
03-26-2010, 09:36 PM
I always thought the original cylon centurions were cooler than the new ones. As for 6 well there is only so much I can do with a $20 budget. Besides I have all of you lovely haunting friends whenever I need to see true beauty.

Hauntiholik
03-26-2010, 09:50 PM
Darn. I was hoping to see a glowing spine. Looking forward to your entry hpropman!

heresjohnny
03-26-2010, 09:54 PM
I always thought the original cylon centurions were cooler than the new ones. As for 6 well there is only so much I can do with a $20 budget. Besides I have all of you lovely haunting friends whenever I need to see true beauty.

Oh, the Cylons, Battle Star Galactica, that was so cool. I was into anything with spaceships at that time. The red light going back and forth, is that what you are thinking?