North TX/OK Make & Take Jan,/Feb.

[scareme]

I thought we needed to start a new thread cause our last thread said Sept. and I didn't want the other Make & Take groups making fun of us.

It sounds like none of us remember the talk about the foam, but there does seem to be interest in it. Are we just doing a Drink & Think and talk about the group buy, and what we are hoping to get finished this year? Or does anyone want to volunteer their place for a tombstone party? As always, I will volunteer my place, but I doubt if anyone wants to drive that far.

[Allen H]

Sounds intrigueing...Depending on the date I definitely want to make it to this one.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I am interrested and depending on the date also.

[DarkLore]

It sounded like most wanted to do a drink and think. I'm pondering only a couple projects for the year. Although willing to help with others.

For me...a MIB (monster in a box), a standing mad scientist, and recently I've given serious thought of an Axworthy. And tombstones if we do some foam.

[scareme]

Hey, I have an idea. Why don't we have the meet and greet the same day as the super bowl? We can meet in the afternoon, and go to the game that night. Who wants to pick up the tickets for the group? Your treat Darklore? :D

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I live about 2 miles from Cowboys staduim. So I guess I would be the one to get the tickets.

[DarkLore]

Let's call 2 miles the closest since he's probably already bought us tickets. (Hope he got us some nice seats.)

What kind of project list do yall have going? Surely we can get together on something. How about ground breakers or something?

[Cole&Jacksdad]

My next project is going to be a pneumatic lift for a evil clown in the box. My coffin jumper mechanism I just built is in the pneumatic section. I am also making a bunch of LED spots. I am open to other projects as well. My Arduino(my first microcontroller) should be here any day, so if anyone knows anything about those, I could sure use the help. OH, I can weld if anyone needs a prop welded.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I say we have either a think and drink or make and take on Feb 12th then go to this haunt that will be open.
http://moxleymanor.com/

[DarkLore]

Thanks for the info. I'd love to make a pumpkin creep but don't have welding tools. If you are up for it, let me know. I'm about a mile east of the stadium.

I just got tasked with some company assignments in the first couple weeks of February. Can't do anything at that time.

It's still my favorite prop Woody...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhoSSacsl80

[Cole&Jacksdad]

That is pretty cool. Yes let's get together after you get your assignments done(always looking for a reason to work on props and weld). Are you off Great South West by chance? I am about 2 miles North of The stadium. I am over by River Legacy Park.

[DarkLore]

I'm off 161 and 30 about a 1.5 mi East of 360. (I thought the stadium was a bit closer than it is, as I now look at the distance on a map.)

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I'm off 161 and 30 about a 1.5 mi East of 360. (I thought the stadium was a bit closer than it is, as I now look at the distance on a map.)

I am about 15 mintues from you.

[scareme]

I don't think I'll drive all the way to Dallas for just drinks. Wish I lived closer, or could find a haunter around here to share the drive with. Really miss Slimy. If we do a make n take I will try to make it. Jaybo suggested middle to late Feb.. Works for me.

[Haunted Bayou]

works for me also

I can't do any more large projects. I don't have the power to hook them up or the time to set them out. I can work on small ones and visit.

My nephew is getting married the saturday before Halloween so I don't even know if I'll be in town on 10/31.

[DarkLore]

I don't think I'll drive all the way to Dallas for just drinks. Wish I lived closer, or could find a haunter around here to share the drive with. Really miss Slimy. If we do a make n take I will try to make it. Jaybo suggested middle to late Feb.. Works for me.

What kind of project do you want to work on Scareme? Late Feb we ought to have warm enough weather for an outside project. I don't mind helping others on something.

[Haunted Bayou]

We usually work on all of our own stuff anyway. I'd be up for a meeting whatever we plan on doing.

[scareme]

I'd love to learn how to do some pumpkins like Denhaunt showed. I have some funkins, but I'd also like to learn how to paper mache some. I also need to work on tombstones. What kind of glue works on styrofoam? Does gorilla glue? I have pool noodles. I saw, somewhere, a window/arch made with them. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

[DarkLore]

Could you post a link to Denhaunt's pumpkin thread? Are you referring to the pumpkin thieves?

I wouldn't mind working on tombstones or mache. But I need some foam if we're doing stones. (I could use some groundbreakers...mache/liquid nails.)

[scareme]

http://hauntcast.net/wp-content/uploads/funkins-after.jpg

Hauntcast sad he followed Den haunt's instructions from issue #22.

[DarkLore]

Okay, I'll bite. Let's play act like I know what I'm talking about. lol...Issue #22 of what?

[scareme]

I quoted it wrong. He said episode 24. I took it he was talking about a Hauntcast episode. I could be wrong here. I guess I need to go back and listen to it.

[DarkLore]

I don't have a problem working on stones, mache, or whatever. But I saw that one of the other groups was going to work on a one armed grave grabber (http://www.fulcrumsites.com/haunt/html/the_one-armed_grave_grabber.html), and thought yall might like that as a project. We could do it at my house if it's the last week of Feb or later.

[scareme]

I could make it the last weekend in Feb. Can't make the first weekend of March. I'm not sure about anything after that. I know we have tickets to Bill Maher one night, I'll have to check and see. I'm up for anything we want to do.

[Haunted Bayou]

oh man...I think that looks pretty cool for a static prop.

I can do that last weekend in Feb no matter what project we work on.

[Erebus]

Last weekend in feb works for me. Ill still show up and give a hand to anyone who needs it. First weekend of March won't work for me cause im going to shreveport with some of the guys in the academy. And camping the weekend after that.

[Jaybo]

Our son has a UIL competition on the 26th, so it depends on how that turns out. We will definitely try our best to make it to the meet. I've got a new styrofoam coating I can show everyone.

[Haunted Bayou]

So are we talking Saturday the 29th and is DarkLore hosting again?

[Cole&Jacksdad]

So are we talking Saturday the 29th and is DarkLore hosting again?

I think that would be the 26th. Only 28 days this Feb. LOL
Anyways, I might be able to make that date as well. I will talk to the wife.

[scareme]

DarkLore has said he would host, and Cole&Jacksdad is right, the date would be the 26th. DarkLore, what time do you want people showing up on your doorstep? We had also mentioned some time doing a drink and think. What does everyone think about doing one right after the M&T. We could go out and get a bite to eat and have a few drinks. Rick and I are going to get a hotel and spend the night in Dallas so we could be there. If all are busy I can understand that too.

[Haunted Bayou]

I think that would be the 26th. Only 28 days this Feb. LOL
Anyways, I might be able to make that date as well. I will talk to the wife.


LOL! I clicked on my iCal and it was January I was looking at.:googly:

I am up for going out to eat afterwards.

[DarkLore]

What time have we normally started? I know yall have a few hours drive ahead of you, so I'm thinking right after lunch.

Are yall interested in doing the grave robber or something else? Do we need to order some motors? What's the project plan?

[DarkLore]

Note - If we do a drink and think later in the evening, I'd like to chat some about night photography. I don't plan on a bunch of new props this year. But I do plan on doing a better job taking photos.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I'm up for a grave robber. What will be the cost for all supplies?

[scareme]

niblique71 did a breakdown of the price in the first post of March Gathering-Is It Spring Yet, in the NJ?PA M&T. Do you think we have enough time to get all the supplies? And he mentions it's cheaper if we buddy buy. I think that's the only way I'll be able to afford to do it. I'm giving Haunted Depot all my money. :D But I'm getting great things in return.

After looking over his list I'm not going to worry about the hands, paint or clothes at this time. I can take care of those when I get home,

[Haunted Bayou]

If you guys want to do an animation, then you need to find the motor before next weekend.
Is there a local shop that sells that kind of stuff?

I can't build another animation due to lack of power but I wouldn't mind working on my static props while you work on your animations. I like the look of the grave grabbers and such.

[DarkLore]

niblique71 did a breakdown of the price in the first post of March Gathering-Is It Spring Yet, in the NJ?PA M&T...

Is It Spring Yet (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=25737)

I'm not big on following exact tutorials and supplies lists.

The only thing we need to obtain in mass would be deer motors. Reversable motors used in the tutorial would be preferrable, but a basic black gear motor would work if we deviate on the movement. Could we get the deer motors ordered in time? If not...are they sold at any local store like walmart? If not, we could contact Kindys and see about getting them ordered and shipped before the week ends.

The rest of the mechanism materials can be purchased locally at Home Depot with the exception of a foam skull. I buy those at Michael's when the season comes around...(most of us may have one). Party city might have them.

Most of it is just scrap pvc and wood, with the exception of the aluminum bar.

[Haunted Bayou]

Hey, I looked-up the shipping for 1 to my address.

There is UPS ground for $9.09
and 2nd day for $21.28

If the parts are ordered on Monday, they might get to you by Saturday if they can ship it that day. Second day is kinda pricey.

[DarkLore]

There is UPS ground for $9.09 and 2nd day for $21.28

If the parts are ordered on Monday, they might get to you by Saturday if they can ship it that day. Second day is kinda pricey.

That's about what I expected. If ordered Monday, ground should easily get here by Friday. How many are coming and want to order a motor? We need a count pretty much by end of day today if we want to do this.

[scareme]

I'll take a motor. But we are getting such a late start, if they don't come in, we might have to wait for the next M&T. And that way we could all pay you first, if you wanted. But that leaves us with having to come up with another project. How much is a motor anyway?

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I will be there and my buddy may be coming as well so put me down for 2.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

What about Decorators Warehouse in Arlington? They may have the motors. I will drive there in the morning and see.

[Jaybo]

You don't have to have the deer motor. You can use one of the black gear motors everyone was using for their peeper gravestones last year. The way Niblique built his, it is basically a modified peeper mechanism laid on it's side. It doesn't even use the reverse function of the deer motor. The deer motor is nice because it can just be plugged straight into an AC outlet and already has an arm attached to the shaft, but any gear motor that turns at about 5rpm would probably work.

[DarkLore]

What about Decorators Warehouse in Arlington? They may have the motors. I will drive there in the morning and see.

I wondered about Decorator's Warehouse...but I've never been in there. I was also thinking I had seen them some place like Michael's or Hobby Lobby.

The problem with using black gear motors is, we wouldn't have a bunch of those either.

Where's a good place to get burlap?

[Jaybo]

You can get burlap in the gardening section of Home Depot. Unless they've recently increased the price of the burlap, it was cheaper than any other place. Well, unless you buy in bulk online.

[scareme]

I think I have some burlap around here. I used it with monster mud, and I had some left over. I'll check, how much do we need?

[DarkLore]

Enough to drape over a figure....shoulders, arms, head.

[DarkLore]

It appears that Decorator's Warehouse doesn't have the motors. I will be contacting Kindys (http://www.kindys.com/products/decorating-accessories/replacement-parts)around lunchtime. Due to President's Day, they may not be able to fulfill the order until tommorrow.

[DarkLore]

I've emailed Kindys via their online contact form. However, there is no contact phone number on their website (that I can find). I'm not sure if they are a year 'round business. There is nothing to indicated whether an order would be fulfilled in time to arrive or not. If I hear back from them, I will try to place an order. If not, I think we'll need an alternate source.

Any ideas on other suppliers of the deer motor that auto reverses on resistence?

[Cole&Jacksdad]

Here is an option.
http://seasonaloutlet.stores.yahoo.net/pivetarm.html

[Haunted Bayou]

I also have burlap.... a lot of it. I'll bring mine too.

[Dark Angel 27]

this is the time, i wish i had a car, so i could go. the most i can do is chat on the webcam, assuming anyone has one. sorry guys!

[DarkLore]

Sorry DAngel. If I figure a way to openly stream our get together, I'll post something here.

As for motors, I did place an order today. I agree with Jaybo, it's definitely easier to have a power cord rather than hookup an adapter.

Note - Niblique71 pointed out...using the autoreverse prematurely kills the motor. Build this using 360 movement.

Due to it being President's Day...I'm figuring they get packaged and shipped out tommorrow if we're lucky. If the motors get here in time, sweet. Scareme, if the motors don't arrive by Sat, I've got a black gear motor we can use to complete a prop for you to take back to OK.

[scareme]

this is the time, i wish i had a car, so i could go. the most i can do is chat on the webcam, assuming anyone has one. sorry guys!

We'll miss you. It would be nice if you could make it sometime. How far away are you anyway?

[Jaybo]

We'll miss you. It would be nice if you could make it sometime. How far away are you anyway?

If she lives in San Antonio, she's a good 5 hrs away. It would probably be easier for her to attend a MnT with steveshauntedyard group and the TXFX guys over in Austin. They are quite a bit more active than us anyway.

I'm not saying don't come, we would love to have more company! That's just a really long drive. It's not like that little 30 minute drive you have scareme <SARCASM>. :googly:

[steveshauntedyard]

this is the time, i wish i had a car, so i could go. the most i can do is chat on the webcam, assuming anyone has one. sorry guys!

Can you get to the Austin area? We have a make and take scheduled for March, April, May, July and September.

[steveshauntedyard]

If she lives in San Antonio, she's a good 5 hrs away. It would probably be easier for her to attend a MnT with steveshauntedyard group and the TXFX guys over in Austin. They are quite a bit more active than us anyway.

I'm not saying don't come, we would love to have more company! That's just a really long drive. It's not like that little 30 minute drive you have scareme <SARCASM>. :googly:

We will take anybody.

[LAKE OF THE DEAD]

how many do you need i have some

[DarkLore]

how many do you need i have some

Four - from the count I have.

I ordered five of the motors mentioned in the tutorial (white w/ac plug), but we don't know if they will get here in time.

[LAKE OF THE DEAD]

call me ,pm you my # if you still dont have it

[scareme]

It's not like that little 30 minute drive you have scareme <SARCASM>. :googly:

It takes me 30 min just to get out of the city. Heck some mornings it takes me 30 min just to get out of the driveway. But that's another story. :D

[Dark Angel 27]

Can you get to the Austin area? We have a make and take scheduled for March, April, May, July and September.

im about and hour and 20 minutes from austin. how long do the M&T last?

[scareme]

I have some extras if it will help anyone.
2-2x4 about 7"
4-1/2" CPVC 12" long
2-1x12-14" pipe insulation
2 1/2 in deck screws
burlap
duck tape
tacks
I'm not sure if the scrap wood I have is the right size, but if it is I have extra.
So far. Does anyone else have any extras of anything else on the list? If not I can pick the other stuff up. I just thought if anyone had extra nuts, bolts or any thing else we could share.

[DarkLore]

I have a couple feet of refrigerator tubing to make fingers. That should be enough for four or five hands. We also need some heavy wire to make the hand structure.

I have to run over to Home Depot to pick up a piece of aluminum.

[Erebus]

Ill be there. But prob wont build anything. I still have some eyeballs to give some of yall

[scareme]

Ill be there. But prob wont build anything. I still have some eyeballs to give some of yall

I had forgotten about those.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

I have some extras if it will help anyone.
2-2x4 about 7"
4-1/2" CPVC 12" long
2-1x12-14" pipe insulation
2 1/2 in deck screws
burlap
duck tape
tacks
I'm not sure if the scrap wood I have is the right size, but if it is I have extra.
So far. Does anyone else have any extras of anything else on the list? If not I can pick the other stuff up. I just thought if anyone had extra nuts, bolts or any thing else we could share.

I have several pieces of scrap 2x4's
about 20' of fridge tubing
a ton of 3/4" PVC electric conduit
I may have more stuff, but that was just what I could think of.

[DarkLore]

I went to Home Depot tonight. Picked up some wire for making hands. I forgot about the head/neck portion. There's a rod support there for the tilt, that I might not be able to adapt.

[DarkLore]

I received a UPS tracking number on the motors. Fingers crossed.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

Are we looking at Saturday or Sunday. Sunday, I am going to go cheer on some friends at the Cowtown Marathon. I should be home by 2 or so.

[scareme]

We were talking Sat. the 26th, about 1:00ish.

[DarkLore]

Are we looking at Saturday or Sunday. Sunday, I am going to go cheer on some friends at the Cowtown Marathon. I should be home by 2 or so.

Saturday.

{That was weird. I replied. And THEN a reply shows up 22 mins before mine. ???}

[Haunted Bayou]

I accidentally replied to the new jersey thread....

I have some items that I can bring too. I'll go through my stuff to see what all I can contribute.

I have pool noodles, the bic pens, deck screws (not sure the size) some other washers and stuff and burlap.....lots of burlap.

[DarkLore]

UPS tracking says the motors aren't going to arrive until Monday. Lake...if there's a chance of getting a couple from you, let me know.

Scareme...we can make at least one using a gear motor for you to take back.

[niblique71]

DL I just got my motor order in today which was 6 days. My first order came in in 3 days. Must be the holiday on monday that slowed them down.

[DarkLore]

No blame to them. We'll make due.

[DarkLore]

That was fun yall. Thanks for coming. I'll try to post one of the clips of the moving props. Other method was different but I think the results are the same.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

Sorry I missed it. Having young kids in school means they bring more things home from school then homework. Hopefully next time I will be well.

[scareme]

DL, Thanks again for hosting the M&T and showing Rick and I around Dallas. We had a great time. Going out to supper with the group was a lot of fun too. Have the other motors shown up yet?

[niblique71]

How did your build turn out?? Are there any pictures?

[Jaybo]

Sorry we were a no show guys. We didn't get done with my son's UIL competition until 5pm.
Any one got any pictures or video?

[scareme]

You could have still come, Jaybo. We didn't get done with the M&T till 8:00. Then we went out for a Mexican dinner and drinks. We had a lot of fun. I took some pictures, I'll try to get them posted tonight.

[DarkLore]

I have a snippet of video but it's pretty dark. I was waiting for Scareme to upload some photos. We deviated in our black gear motor implementation, but the prop seemed to work well...even with a heavy mask over a foam head.

Yes...the other motors came on Monday and I started a build for myself. My only comment so far....be careful how heavy you make the head and hand. I coated one of the hands Erebus, Bayou, and Scareme made on Sat., with liquid nails. That made the arm quite heavy and thus more drag. I'll find out if it's too heavy when I finish.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

When is the next M&T? Also how much do I owe you for the motor?

[DarkLore]

Kindy motors are 10 dollars. I can work on it couple hours this weekend if you are available. I'll have one pretty close to complete (with the Kindys deer motor). It's much easier to do if there's another one done to take measurements and see how it works.

[Cole&Jacksdad]

This weekend I will be on a Scout campout. Next weekend I will be at Transworld. Are you available during the week at all?

[scareme]

Pictures from the Feb. TX/OK M&T. There were only five of us, but we had a lot of fun. I had my camera at supper, but forgot to take any pictures. Thanks again James.

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/scaremeok/Make%20and%20Take/064.jpg

James and Rick working on the grave grabber.

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/scaremeok/Make%20and%20Take/066.jpg

Clint and Carolyn getting in on the act.

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/scaremeok/Make%20and%20Take/068.jpg

Clint and Carolyn making wire and ducktape hands.

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/scaremeok/Make%20and%20Take/069.jpg

View from the hotel window about two miles from James house. Rangers stadium on left. Cowboys stadium on right.

[DarkLore]

This weekend I will be on a Scout campout. Next weekend I will be at Transworld. Are you available during the week at all?

Maybe we could teach the scouts how to build grave grabbers? lol. I can be available during the week, sometime after work. Thurs (tommorrow) I'll be busy.

[DarkLore]

In this version, I used a rod and wood structure for the head support. The rod is stable for mounting pool noodles (shoulders). The wood piece for mounting the head turns on the aluminum rod.

http://www.mourningwood.com/images/IMG_0617.jpg


http://www.mourningwood.com/images/IMG_0620.JPG

[Cole&Jacksdad]

Maybe we could teach the scouts how to build grave grabbers? lol. I can be available during the week, sometime after work. Thurs (tommorrow) I'll be busy.


Hmmmmm...... I wonder what type of merit badge they would get?

[Haunted Bayou]

"Morbid Curiosity" Merit Badge

Great pics, Scareme. I like that view from your hotel.

[Jaybo]

Some one hand Clint a sandwich. That poor man's wasting away. What, they don't feed you fireman? :D

Just kidding! Everything looks great guys!

[DarkLore]

I modified the mechanism a bit. I have a rubber band that holds the head taunt. And I used heavy fishline to attach the pivot screw to the motor arm. Due to the distance of the head movement, I raised the head pivot mount up a bit.


http://www.mourningwood.com/images/grabber01.jpg

Below are links to see the movement. Sorry, I'm not sure how to embed the movies without putting them on something like youtube.

http://www.mourningwood.com/movies/IMG_0625.MOV

http://www.mourningwood.com/movies/IMG_0626.MOV

[DarkLore]

Hmmmmm...... I wonder what type of merit badge they would get?

There should definitely be a Haunt merit badge. DarkLore's Merit Badge requirements...(do you qualify?)

1. Complete a handmade costume
2. Demonstrate basic understanding of theater makeup, latex appliances, or a homemade blood recipe.
3. Create a prop using at least one of the following mediums: mache, pvc, corpsing (latex and cotton), carved foam, dry ice.
4. Build a tombstone with an epitaph or theme you created
5. Using a motor, servo, controllers, or other...create a prop that incorporates movement
6. Through diagram drawing or physical implementation, demonstrate a circuit using one or more 5mm leds.
7. Post a completed prop on a forum or how-to website. Must include photos, description, and materials used.

[scareme]

Some one hand Clint a sandwich. That poor man's wasting away. What, they don't feed you fireman? :D

Just kidding! Everything looks great guys!

He may be getting skinny, but he's building up his arms carrying a hose and his pack up mega flights of stairs.

[Haunted Bayou]

just remember, folks...in that photo of me and Erebus....he is really, really, really thin, which makes for the illusion that I am really, really, really thick
:zombie:

Oh...I see that DarkLore used Erebus' perfect, back-scratching, rake hand for his prop....
Mine looked like something a pre-k student would make. DOH!

[DarkLore]

just remember, folks...in that photo of me and Erebus....he is really, really, really thin, which makes for the illusion that I am really, really, really thick
:zombie:

Oh...I see that DarkLore used Erebus' perfect, back-scratching, rake hand for his prop....
Mine looked like something a pre-k student would make. DOH!

Actually... Both of you made right hands. After twisting around the fingers, I thought....hmmm. Maybe it should be palm up, and I might get a few donations with it?