2007 $20 Prop Challenge Discussion

[Zombie-F]

Over the course of the "2007 $20 Prop Challenge" contest, feel free to post thoughts, comments, questions, progress, etc. to this thread.

For full rules, please see this thread (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?p=110032).

Talk amongst yourselves. :D

[krypt]

can we use motors?how much time?and when does it start?

[Zombie-F]

can we use motors?how much time?and when does it start?

Yes. Anything goes on this one. Just be sensible on how you price the items that go into your creation.

[krypt]

when can i begin the build?

[Zombie-F]

Now. Read the rules please.

[krypt]

heres one that i think is iffy..... i have a totaled car in driveway can i claim those parts as free? ill get pictures of the car so everyone knows its pretty much trash.

[Zombie-F]

heres one that i think is iffy..... i have a totaled car in driveway can i claim those parts as free? ill get pictures of the car so everyone knows its pretty much trash.

I'm going to have to say "no" to that one. Even a totaled care has some value, and I'd definitely say that it's more than $20. When I say "Be sensible" this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.

[krypt]

i wanted to use just the wiper motor nothing else if i call junk yard get there price is that ok?

[Zombie-F]

If you're gonna just use the wiper motor, that is ok. I thought you wanted to use the whole car.

[heresjohnny]

Ya, its started! I have no idea what to build! Oh the pressure!

[Big Howlin]

is using items found in a trash bin ok?

[Dr Morbius]

is using items found in a trash bin ok?
You know, this contest has been run last year, and I encourage everyone to not just read the rules, but the discussion from last year as well. the link is:
http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=1546

ALOT of the same questions are answered there.

[Dr Morbius]

Oh! I almost forgot! What about sharing progress? I know this was an issue last year.

[krypt]

ill share lets not keep secrets but also dont copy either .......cool?

[Dr Morbius]

Over the course of the "2007 $20 Prop Challenge" contest, feel free to post thoughts, comments, questions, progress, etc. to this thread.

For full rules, please see this thread (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?p=110032).

Talk amongst yourselves. :D
Oh duh...you said Ok to post progress. I need to read more carefully before posting.:o

[krypt]

im either gonna try crazy arms or a haunted bookshelf.

[Dr Morbius]

Here's a teaser photo of my prop I started today.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/skullpics605.jpg

[Zombie-F]

is using items found in a trash bin ok?

Yes. Trash is ok to use. Just be sensible in what you consider to be trash. Don't go throwing expensive items away just so you can say it is "trash." If you think that the item you are using in your prop may not be considered to be following the guidelines, consult me via PM before building and I'll let you know if it's ok or not.

Oh! I almost forgot! What about sharing progress? I know this was an issue last year.

Yes, share. I run this place and have thought the sharing process just helps step things up a notch and adds to the competitive edge. I won't be brow-beaten into changing the rules this time around, that's why I didn't open up the rules for discussion this time around.

[slightlymad]

Woo Hoo!

[heresjohnny]

Yes, share. I run this place and have thought the sharing process just helps step things up a notch and adds to the competitive edge. I won't be brow-beaten into changing the rules this time around, that's why I didn't open up the rules for discussion this time around.

Hooray Zombie!

[Hellrazor]

Ok question: Is the total cost in US funds or Canadian funds... I have a project in mind but if I use Canadian funds, Im WAY over, but If I convert it to what you guys would pay in the US, then I should come in on target.....

How can we work this?

Thanks,

[Big Howlin]

I was gonna ask that too.

On http://www.xe.com/ucc/ it shows at the moment:

20.00 USD
United States Dollars = 23.6311 CAD
Canada Dollars

[Beepem]

seeing as Zombie lives in the US i would assume its in US dollars

[Lilly]

Can this be something we are currently working on as i have already posted a pic of part of it elsewhere in the forum?

[Big Howlin]

seeing as Zombie lives in the US i would assume its in US dollars

I know its in US, but when we have to calculate what we spent, we need to convert it somehow. Or He can just let us do $23-24 CDN as our prices are more expensive. Works out to the same in US dollars. :D

[Otaku]

I'll bet I'm gonna wind up making another controller instead of a scary prop, but I've been wrong before.

[Lilly]

you make some cool stuff Otaku cnat wait to see.

[Hellrazor]

I think that 23-24 is lowballing it for us. You have to also take into consideration the cost of what the Item would be in the US

Eg: bucky Skull - 15.00 canadian plus 14 % sales tax
6.99 US plus sales tax of less than 14%

What should we do oh Great Zombie????

I think 30.00 is more like it, but its your contest....

[Big Howlin]

I already have a great idea, I think I could do it for under 25.
I dont think I would go over...but its gonna be a little ghetto. Ill do my best though. Do we have a place where we can post our pics and updates yet?

[Hellrazor]

YOu post pics and upates here... the finished product will be posted to a separate link.

[Zombie-F]

Yes, the cost is in USD.

Progress photos are to be posted inside this thread.

The FINAL product you produce should be presented by posting a new thread in this forum. It will NOT appear to anyone until I have approved it for use in the contest, so please do not post your entry more than once. If there is a problem with your entry, I will contact you about it.

[Lilly]

Okay so here is a pic of some foam toes (2) of many pieces to my prop, I still need to do some work on these
Name of Prop : Made To Order
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/toeswithnail.jpg

[Merlin (The Quiet One)]

Wow, Lilly those look great! I gotta think of something to make and here you already have a name for yours. Good work.

[Dr Morbius]

Great toes! What'dja use for nails?

[TearyThunder]

Question....what if two haunters live in the same house and both want to do a prop?

[Dr Morbius]

At the same time? For God's sake, use protection! poor prop.

[TearyThunder]

No, no, no Dr. M, not like that. We don't use the halloween props in the bedroom like that. There are other stuff for that. :D

[spokanejoe]

Okay...I am a dolt..or something. What exactly is the challenge? Before it was tombstones and scarecrows. I have read the rules and the discussion thru 2 times so I would not make a fool of myself but I am missing the theme. Please help this retarted soul.....WHAT are we making???

[Zombie-F]

Okay...I am a dolt..or something. What exactly is the challenge? Before it was tombstones and scarecrows. I have read the rules and the discussion thru 2 times so I would not make a fool of myself but I am missing the theme. Please help this retarted soul.....WHAT are we making???

THERE IS NO THEME. It's a free-for-all. Just make whatever you can for $20.

AND FOR YOU CANADIANS...

Go to an exchange web site and look up what $20 USD converts to for Canadian money. That's what you have to work with.

Just to make this easy, $20 USD = $23.62 CAD. So for you Canadians out there, you have $23.62 CAD to work with.

Anyone else out there should convert our dollars to their currency to figure out what they have to work with as well.

[Beepem]

you guys.

first off im pumped for this one because my money restrictions doesn't give me a disadvantage(only my lack of skill does!) and i came to haunt forum just as last years was ending so ive been waiting a while....i have no idea what to make though....to haunt project i go...

[Hellrazor]

Cool Zombie. Very Fair. Thanks

[TearyThunder]

I am assuming me and Kouma can enter if we want to.....am I correct on this assumption since there was no mention of us not being able to.

[Zombie-F]

I am assuming me and Kouma can enter if we want to.....am I correct on this assumption since there was no mention of us not being able to.

Correct. It's one entry per person, so two people in the same household can enter.

[Koumajutsu]

Hmmmm, now what to do with all this stuff we scored on 10 cent clearance buys..... :devil:

[TearyThunder]

No way Kouma!!!!! Those are MINE to play with! You can find some stuff at work for free to mess with. I'm stuck in the apartment fending for myself!

[Fangs]

Yeah Yeah Yeah! doing the happy dance! Can't wait to conjure somethin up for this contest! LOL :>

Btw, Dr M--- Nice Fangs :devil:
Lilly----Nice toes! :D

[BobC]

Dr. Morbius nice teaser looks great so far. And also nice toe teaser for those haunters with feet fetishes..lol Im excited dont know what to make but will start something this weekend good luck all. :jol:

[Lilly]

Yup nice teaser Doc lookin good already,
Heres another for ya ,same but different still not finished though
Used hot glue for nails..
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/morefingys1.jpg

[mgrmax]

I think I will give this one a shot....

Just need a few more posts:D

[Big Howlin]

ooooh man. Mines coming along great! Im gonna post a teaser tomorrow!

[heresjohnny]

Lilly those toes are lookkng great! I'm looking forward to seeing how these and the other unknown 'parts' will look.

[Big Howlin]

Teaser:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f349/nevjenpics/teddy.jpg
lol

[ShadyHallows]

Nice work! Looks like something my dog would do to a stuffed animal.

[Dr Morbius]

Progress!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal003rs.jpg

[krough]

Oh you taunt us so Dr M

[NATUREPIXIE]

Big Question.....

I have a small table fountain that I've had for about five years. I want to use the pump out of it for part of my prop. Would that be considered a free item? Or what would the price be?

I'm new and a beginner to prop building.:) But I would like to try and make something for the contest..

[heresjohnny]

Progress!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal003rs.jpg

So Doc, now you are building a random pile of tissue paper and roll-on balls? The bathroom monster?

[Zombie-F]

Big Question.....

I have a small table fountain that I've had for about five years. I want to use the pump out of it for part of my prop. Would that be considered a free item? Or what would the price be?

I'm new and a beginner to prop building.:) But I would like to try and make something for the contest..

Well, since you're disassembling an existing item you already paid for to use it for a prop, I think a small dollar value would be in order. How much did the table fountain cost when it was new?

[bourno]

I started to read the old thread on questions and gave up.

MY question: Can the prop be human power operated for effect or does it need to be stand alone?

[NATUREPIXIE]

Well, since you're disassembling an existing item you already paid for to use it for a prop, I think a small dollar value would be in order. How much did the table fountain cost when it was new?


I paid 9.99 for it new.. It's 5 years old now.. it's small table top fountain, like cereal bowl size...

[Zombie-F]

I started to read the old thread on questions and gave up.

MY question: Can the prop be human power operated for effect or does it need to be stand alone?

Sure, to save a buck you can have it be man operated.

I paid 9.99 for it new.. It's 5 years old now.. it's small table top fountain, like cereal bowl size...

Ok, so we'll say your used pump is worth $2. That sounds fair. It is something you bought... it's not like you picked it out of the trash.

And I'd like to set a precedent here. If it's something you previously bought and you will now be disassembling it for the purpose of stripping a part out of it for this prop, a dollar value will be associated with the item.

[NATUREPIXIE]

Ok, so we'll say your used pump is worth $2. That sounds fair. It is something you bought... it's not like you picked it out of the trash.

Thanks that's what I needed... Not sure I'll really use yet, but I plan to.

[Big Howlin]

so we have 2 months for this huh? ...time is my friend.

[Zombie-F]

so we have 2 months for this huh? ...time is my friend.

Oh man, so many have said that before you and then wound up entering at the last possible second... or worse, not at all. Don't get too comfortable with how much time you have. :D

[Lilly]

Here is part 2 of 10
TONGUES!!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/tongues1.jpg
TONGUES

[rasp]

Cool! Just popped in to see what's been going on and this is the first thread/topic I read. Looks like I'll have to stick around and do more posting and get in the fun.

[NATUREPIXIE]

Lilly, I'm just dying to see what your up to...lol I bet it's gonna be good!!!

[trishaanne]

http://cnj.craigslist.org/zip/268654253.html

Zombie, I got one of these pieces of foam FREE off of craigslist. I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, well, yes, I have a few ideas, but I just wanted to see if this is among the approved items. I know it's normally expensive to buy this but I'm sending the link along so that you can see that it really was offered for FREE! I'll take a pic of it soon. I just wanted to make sure I got the OK before I start cutting into this thing.

[Zombie-F]

http://cnj.craigslist.org/zip/268654253.html

Zombie, I got one of these pieces of foam FREE off of craigslist. I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, well, yes, I have a few ideas, but I just wanted to see if this is among the approved items. I know it's normally expensive to buy this but I'm sending the link along so that you can see that it really was offered for FREE! I'll take a pic of it soon. I just wanted to make sure I got the OK before I start cutting into this thing.

Sure, if it's being thrown away and you can get it for free, then by all means use it.

[heresjohnny]

I made a prototype today, and it worked!

http://www.johnnyspage.com/IM003991.jpg

Now I got to make it look scary.

[Dr Morbius]

So far....

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal002-1.jpg

[Big Howlin]

Oooo...
Ahhhh...

[Lilly]

Hey heresjohhny
periscope down....wonder what you are making there?

Doc, lookin good ..great teeth

[Dr Morbius]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal005-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal006-1.jpg

[HalloweenRick]

Oh lord, Dr. Morbius is showing off already. Hey Zombie, can we be like the NFL and penalize for "Taunting"? That would carry a 15 yd penalty on the kickoff, so how about, say, a $10 reduction in Dr. Morbius limit. Let's see him buy pipe and paper towels with only $10!
:-) Nice work as always Dr. M. At this early point in the competition we can already tell who the Tiger Woods of this game is...

[Front Yard Fright]

Here is part 2 of 10
TONGUES!!
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/tongues1.jpg
TONGUES

LOL yeah... OK. what kind of haunted house you running lilly?!?! :p

[NATUREPIXIE]

Wow, you guys....everything is looking great!! I haven't even got started yet...starting to get a little intimidated here, wonder if I should even try...lol

Lilly, how do you make those toes & tongues????

[Dr Morbius]

More "taunting"....I guess I should explain what this prop will be.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal008.jpg

[Big Howlin]

She sure looks purdy

[HalloweenRick]

I'd call Dr. Morbius's prop:
HalloweenRick's Mother-In-Law upon finding out her daughter's engagement.
Because it reminds me a lot of that moment...

[pyro]

nice dr morbius -same to you lilly, but im wondering what your up to with the body parts

[Dr Morbius]

I'd call Dr. Morbius's prop:
HalloweenRick's Mother-In-Law upon finding out her daughter's engagement.
Because it reminds me a lot of that moment...
LOL! I'm sure you'll feel vindicated when you see it finished...Not saying why,...yet.

[Otaku]

Hey, Dr. M, looking good! I gotta wrap up this MP3 project and get started...

[morgan8586]

Doc M...Looking good. (as always)

[Big Howlin]

Wondering if my wife can join in and do her own project even though shes not a member here. Shes just been watching me make my project and got really excited about it and begged me to ask if she can join. lol

[Zombie-F]

Wondering if my wife can join in and do her own project even though shes not a member here. Shes just been watching me make my project and got really excited about it and begged me to ask if she can join. lol

As per the rules she'd have to sign up with an account here and make at least 30 posts before the end of the contest.

[Lilly]

Wow, you guys....everything is looking great!! I haven't even got started yet...starting to get a little intimidated here, wonder if I should even try...lol

Lilly, how do you make those toes & tongues????

I am cutting them out of couch cushion foam and using expired cheap every day make-up and some Hot glue on some.

Pyro--hmmm ....what could it be??? more parts coming soon, the more you see you may figure it out.. until then

[heresjohnny]

Progress, this goes with the periscope

http://www.johnnyspage.com/IM003999.jpg

[Big Howlin]

I like the color of her face. Very shiny and bright green....

[Lilly]

very interesting johnny
does that mask glow under a blacklight?

[Big Howlin]

A tease of whats to come from me.
My first prop ever!


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f349/nevjenpics/teddytease.jpg

[Lilly]

Cheetah
Bad day at the dentists office?
my curiosity is peeked.

[heresjohnny]

very interesting johnny
does that mask glow under a blacklight?

It looks like it would, the picture was only with flash....

[Dr Morbius]

Hmmmmm...I wonder what you guys are making?

[Dr Morbius]

Ok, my $20 dollar prop is done!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/6523451211.jpg

[Sickie Ickie]

You may be kidding morbius, but I could easily see one made with a foam skull, oscillating fan and wire form for the clothes. :-D

[Dr Morbius]

Actually, it really IS the prop I submitted last year...It won 2nd place. So, you saw right!

[heresjohnny]

Changed my mind, I will use this mask instead. Looks more like something that would come out of a sewer.

http://www.johnnyspage.com/IM004004.jpg

[Dr Morbius]

Yessssssss!

[Fangs]

I only have one word...... WOW!!!!!!!!!!
I gotta get started! LOL :>

[Sickie Ickie]

I believe I still have time...Isn't the deadline March?

[Phoenix]

Is this challenge limited to props only, how about electronic systems that can be used for haunt controls?

[Phoenix]

and if electronic systems are allowed and it was an add-on for a PC would the cost of the PC be excluded given that everyone has one?

[Zombie-F]

and if electronic systems are allowed and it was an add-on for a PC would the cost of the PC be excluded given that everyone has one?

Electronic systems are allowed, but every item necessary to the operation of the prop is included in the cost... regardless of whether "everyone" has it or not. To assume every person has a PC as an incorrect assumption. There are definitely people out there that do not own a PC. This falls in the category of items that are "within reason," which a PC is definitely not within reason.

I believe it was Otaku that submitted a nifty motion sensor for his entry last year.

[Big Howlin]

Cheetah
Bad day at the dentists office?
my curiosity is peeked.

Yeah, bad for the dentist though.

[Phoenix]

Electronic systems are allowed, but every item necessary to the operation of the prop is included in the cost... regardless of whether "everyone" has it or not. To assume every person has a PC as an incorrect assumption. There are definitely people out there that do not own a PC. This falls in the category of items that are "within reason," which a PC is definitely not within reason.

I believe it was Otaku that submitted a nifty motion sensor for his entry last year.

I disagree,and to prove my point, if anyone hasn't got a computer, can they please reply to this post.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I disagree,and to prove my point, if anyone hasn't got a computer, can they please reply to this post.
I don't believe this is open for debate, but if you feel inclined to voice your opinion, you should post a PM or email directly to Zombie-F.

[Phoenix]

I forgot Americans don't get irony

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I forgot Americans don't get irony
Well, after looking at your original post, I see the humor. Maybe if it had followed with a LOL or something like this :D, I would have picked up on it sooner.

[rasp]

Zombie-F OK I got one question. I can get enough throw away wood from work to add on to my house by the end of the week.( if building codes weren't so stiff LOL ) How much of this could I use in the prop to make it fare to everyone? I have a small operation table I made last year and wasn't able to finish it. Was wondering if I could include it as part of the prop. The only cost I have in it is the screws holding it together. If it gives me an unfare advantage I'll do something ells.

[Zombie-F]

I disagree,and to prove my point, if anyone hasn't got a computer, can they please reply to this post.

Well, at my last job I worked with a guy that didn't own a computer but was able to use the one at work to do his online stuff.

[Zombie-F]

Zombie-F OK I got one question. I can get enough throw away wood from work to add on to my house by the end of the week.( if building codes weren't so stiff LOL ) How much of this could I use in the prop to make it fare to everyone? I have a small operation table I made last year and wasn't able to finish it. Was wondering if I could include it as part of the prop. The only cost I have in it is the screws holding it together. If it gives me an unfare advantage I'll do something ells.

I want freshly built items for the contest. No finishing this prop or that prop that wasn't completed from last year.

As for the wood issue, how big are the scraps we're talking about and how large is the item you plan on building. I will set a limit on stuff like that because it is a little unfair to people who lack the access to these materials you can get.

[Phoenix]

Well, at my last job I worked with a guy that didn't own a computer but was able to use the one at work to do his online stuff.

My point still stands anyone who has the slightest interest in an automated prop will have a computer.

Are you banning stuff that uses mains electricity because the cost of an electrical generating grid isn't within the $20 budget, or that not everyone has electricity, after all there could be someone in the middle of Africa reading this forum!

Computers today are as much a utility as electricity, gas or water.

I know I've already lost this argument, but your point that not everyone has a computer on an internet forum is a little contradictory.

[ShadyHallows]

I have a feeling cheeta is making some sort of rodent...

[Dr Morbius]

My point still stands anyone who has the slightest interest in an automated prop will have a computer.

Are you banning stuff that uses mains electricity because the cost of an electrical generating grid isn't within the $20 budget, or that not everyone has electricity, after all there could be someone in the middle of Africa reading this forum!

Computers today are as much a utility as electricity, gas or water.

I know I've already lost this argument, but your point that not everyone has a computer on an internet forum is a little contradictory.
What are you a wise guy? I have TWO haunt neighbors who have self automated props who DON'T own computers, yet thier interest in automated props remains...Hmmmm.. and I have 4 automated props that don't use computers, even though I own 5 of them. I happen to know a guy who doesnt own a computer but uses one at a library to go online. I'm sure he's laughing at your post right now.

[Phoenix]

I think this has turned into a far bigger deal than it actually is

[Lilly]

Like doc says above post here...but for this contest if you are using the computer to run your prop then it must be included in the materials cost.

$20 and under

[Dr Morbius]

I think this has turned into a far bigger deal than it actually is
I agree..let's resume prop talk and forget about it.:D Soo..Phoenix, what'dja have in mind for your prop?

[gmacted]

Phoenix,

I'm interested in your prop idea. Just don't submit it to the $20 prop challenge.

This is just a friendly forum where everyone gets to share their ideas. From what I can see Zombie-F is just trying to keep the contest fair for everyone. This is supposed to be fun! I personally used one of the ideas from last years contest and appreciated the fact that I could buy all the supplies and build the prop for under $20.

Share your idea. Think about the bragging rights!

[Phoenix]

It was for a home made IO board for a haunt controller and a new version of my haunt control software, I reckon given that just about everyone has a PC then the $10 component cost of a board would fit the bill, and would remove the need for using the $50 IP boards the system currently uses

Id have to write a completely new version of my software, but hey thats just my time.

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I would like to see this too.

[Big Howlin]

Hrmmm...could be. A nasty little rodent. Maybe it is....maybe it isnt....;)
I have a feeling cheeta is making some sort of rodent...

[Lilly]

Phoenix,
that sounds very interesting...what say.. could this operate? size wise.
how much memory would a PC need to operate your controller.
do you have a sneak peek pic?

I understand what you meant now.

[HalloweenRick]

Oh Dr. Morbius-time for a little smack talk of my own-A little preview-if you will of my own prop--Still needs a little work, but I think you'll see by my tally at the bottom, I'm well within budget:
http://www.frightcatalog.com/i/250/1001022.jpg
Old mat I found lying around the house: $5
Chains from my garage-oh-$5
Dressing my large muscular self in a loincloth and making raging noises-absoleutly FREE!
Just go ahead and give up now, good Dr.! Taunting is best served cold!!!
So long Phoenix, never really did get to know you except for your inane questions...

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Well HRick, I see you've been to FCat...LOL

[HalloweenRick]

What do you mean FE-This is a completely original prop!! Can I help it if I have a rock hard body due to my regimented workout routine and have Barry Bonds's personal trainer on speed dial?

[Lilly]

Cheetah..exellent carving
Clever picture as well.
If thats what I think it is, (could be wrong) it will turn out to be very cool, will be worth the wait.
Hope the rest turns out as such.

[Lilly]

Rick..
Good 1
by the way how much you get paid to do those Geico commercials? LOL

[Big Howlin]

Cheetah..exellent carving
Clever picture as well.
If thats what I think it is, (could be wrong) it will turn out to be very cool, will be worth the wait.
Hope the rest turns out as such.


Well I did carve the teeth...

[rasp]

I want freshly built items for the contest. No finishing this prop or that prop that wasn't completed from last year.

As for the wood issue, how big are the scraps we're talking about and how large is the item you plan on building. I will set a limit on stuff like that because it is a little unfair to people who lack the access to these materials you can get.

The lumber is wet pine and usualy runs in these lengths,
1x6 from 5 to 7 ft long
2x6 from 3 to 7 ft long
2x10 to 2x16 from 3 to 7 ft long

Broken down from large crates. The wood would have to be dried to stay streight. ( or in my case left in my shed for a few years LOL ). I sware it twists and warps as you cut it. LOL

The table size would be 2.5x5x3ft tall. There would also be an extending arm to hold part of the prop. Be no problum to rebuild. I could even take a shot of both tables side by side to prove I'm not cheating.

If this is OK I'll start on it. If not that's cool to. I'll build something ells.
Thanks.

[Dr Morbius]

Oh Dr. Morbius-time for a little smack talk of my own-A little preview-if you will of my own prop--Still needs a little work, but I think you'll see by my tally at the bottom, I'm well within budget:
http://www.frightcatalog.com/i/250/1001022.jpg
Old mat I found lying around the house: $5
Chains from my garage-oh-$5
Dressing my large muscular self in a loincloth and making raging noises-absoleutly FREE!
Just go ahead and give up now, good Dr.! Taunting is best served cold!!!
So long Phoenix, never really did get to know you except for your inane questions...
LOL! Good one.. Consider me taunted!:cool:

[Lilly]

okay heres another part<haha
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/ears1.jpg
and i just wanted to show you this cuz i think its funny but i'll use it too
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/tonguepierce1.jpg

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Looking real good Lily!!!

[ScareFX]

Very cool Lilly! :)

[heresjohnny]

Lilly, you know, you should make ear cookies for Halloween.

[Dr Morbius]

those look great...but I still wonder what your building.

[Big Howlin]

I think I know...heheh
I do, I dooo!

As for them being cookies, yeah, mmm, and you could add a mix of yellow icing and cinnimon in the middle for ear wax!

[HalloweenRick]

Some of things look like ears but other ones like......uhhhh...another part of a woman's anatomy...........

[Big Howlin]

Some of things look like ears but other ones like......uhhhh...another part of a woman's anatomy...........

Hmmm.... hate to meet the girl you saw naked.

[Lilly]

FE,Scarefx,Doc..thanks
HJ.cookies huh...good idea need to make cookie cutter for that then..hmm
CC67-you might at that,I was thinking of doing an ear wax thing but decided not to
HR>(get your mind out of the gutter)
but yes they are ears, maybe i'll have to do some snipping on them.

[Lilly]

Seems no one else is putting their pics but a few people ...who all is going to enter this contest?
Anyways here is another parts...
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/eyes%20for%20foam%20tray/eggies4.jpg

looking at this now ...anyone for breakfast haha

[Big Howlin]

Eye would love some. Get it? EYE!!! Hahahha-eh-heh-hehhhh... booo.

[Dr Morbius]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal002-3.jpg

[Lilly]

hey Doc you gonna put a light in the mouth? or glow paint? Are you going to do a body?
so far so good!!

[Dr Morbius]

Mouth light: No
Glow paint: No
Body: Frame built..pics soon.

Thanks!

[Dr Morbius]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal002-4.jpg

[Sickie Ickie]

Hey, when's deadline again?

[Big Howlin]

april 30th?

[Sickie Ickie]

I'm such a procrastinator...

[Zombie-F]

The rules are constantly available in a separate thread in this forum. If you ever need to read them, just go to the Prop Challenge's main forum page and click on the Rules Thread (http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=5506).

The entries are due in on March 31st.

[Sickie Ickie]

thanx z-f :)

[Big Howlin]

Whats the spending limit and what do we have to make?

jk jk jk jk jk jk!!! Please dont boot me!!
lol

[Sickie Ickie]

20 cents and an animattronic prop. Havent yu been following the discussion? :p :p :p LOL

[pyro]

wow dr. morbius- very nice / $20 dollar prop

[Lilly]

Cool Doc thats is gonna look great lit up-as in spot or black lit
(if thats what you are planning)

[rasp]

Ya'll gota stop!!! this aint fair! It's WAY to cold to do anything here in MO. Paper mache is freezing in place. And that's happening in my basement LOL. I'll use the table and partially done machines for it's intended prop and do something ells for this.

Parts list.
50 gal. foil lined cardboard barrel ( free from work )
a few pieces of 2 1/2 inch ribbed tubing ( free from work. I actually have about 12 yards of this stuff. Factory got rid of an old air table. )
Assorted cardboard boxes, cans, tubes and containers (free from my eating and bathroom habits )
larger cardboard tubes ( free from work )
Soda pop caps ( free from my drinking habits )
Computer graphics
Faked wire ( newspaper wrapped around florist wire )
Clear plastic scraps from bakery goods containers and soda bottles ( used for broken glass and gauge covers ) free.
Not sure but might use Great stuff is snot ragging doesn't do the trick. Might use Great stuff even if snot ragging works LOL.
Latex and Kilts paint colored by cheap craft paints. ( not free. Will have to figure price after project is done.)
C7 or C9 Christmas lights. ( after Christmas sales )
Battery opp mini Christmas lights ( .75 after Christmas sale )May add wire to this to extend the reach of each light.
LOTs of newspaper.
Lots of mache goop
And more things may be added to this as it progresses.
No pictures yet. Still looks like the bottom of the trash bag I got it all from. LOL

[Lilly]

Rasp....well I tell ya what if your temp is colder then here than okay ...we shall forgive you.
monday morn -17 here with wind chill of -26
but it looks like you got a good start.
keep it up

[rasp]

Lilly, ok it's not that bad. It was 9 when I got gas this morning. And there was a guy standing there in shorts pumping gas. True story! I guess he was freezing his brains off. LOL Here I am in a coat, two shirts and a hat cowling down like a beat puppy every time the wind blows. He's standing there like it's July or something. LOL

Your absolutely right! I should put some extra socks on and go to it! Plan to pool everything together tomarrow and start taking pics from the get go. Be the best looking cardboard trash can on the net! LOL

[Lilly]

Yup some peeps are nuts.... sounds like his brains were already froze among a couple other things.
Can't wait to see the can art.

[Zombie-F]

Ok, back on topic here guys, ok? :)

[1031fan]

ok - heres a question....i can make foam skulls for about 1-2 bucks....but i had to make the mold first......i made the mold a while back......so i was wondering if the cost of the mold would be added as well or because the actual foam skull is the only thing going to be in the prop, the cost of the mold wouldn't matter...hope that wasn't a stupid question.....the more i think about it, the more i think that it would be ok to not use the cost of the mols, because that would be like the cost of a power drill......no one puts that in the cost, but it obviously has to be used in some cases....anyway..just checking to make sure....just let me/us know either way...and btw zombie - thanks for unblocking my thing....1031fan

[Dr Morbius]

more paint
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal001-4.jpg
another shot
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal002-6.jpg

[Big Howlin]

Is she done?

[Dr Morbius]

heheh..nope. I should have it done by this weekend..I can't reveal ALL of it to you, can I? Where is the surprise in that?

[pyro]

she is goin to look good in the dark, any plans on lighting

[Dr Morbius]

Some plans. I haven't decided yet. Wait..are you saying my prop looks best in the dark? LOL!

[rasp]

Cool looking prop Dr. Morbius. Looking forward to seeing more shots.

OK, here's the deal. I get free web sites from Earthlink so I made a site just for this prop chalange.

http://home.earthlink.net/~pooiotus/

It's a running how-to just for this prop. Each page will be a step taken in it's completion. Hopefully I'll get something doen over the weekend. Got a lot of catching up to do. LOL

[Dr Morbius]

Whatrya gonna make?

[Big Howlin]

she is goin to look good in the dark...

Add a paper bag and you cant tell the difference! :D

[rasp]

Whatrya gonna make?

A dead clown re-animation lab. This machine will have a body in it.

[DeathTouch]

Hey, that chick is hot Dr. M. How much? I love her long time.

[Sickie Ickie]

Okay, I have part of my prop figured out. Something I've never seen anyone make or sell before...

I'm stuck on how to use it in a setting, though. LOL

[Big Howlin]

I think I found the perfects setting. Did a test shot and it worked out how I thought it would. I need to finish this thing soon so I can post!

[slightlymad]

Guess I better get started this weekend have to wrap my head around an idea tonight

[DeadSpider]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/deadspiderpictures/Halloween%20Pictures/Halloween%202007/Eyeball.jpg

Eye Shishkabobs?

[Dr Morbius]

Hey, that chick is hot Dr. M. How much? I love her long time.
PERV!!! .....20 bucks, of course.:D

[Dr Morbius]

Looking great, DS!!

[Dr Morbius]

Okay, I have part of my prop figured out. Something I've never seen anyone make or sell before...

I'm stuck on how to use it in a setting, though. LOL
C'mon, SI...Let us in on your idea!

[Sickie Ickie]

Patience Doc. LOL I'd reveal it all, but then my idea would be stolen for sure. :-)

Hopefully I can get the first part done this week. I still have to figure out the rest of it. Don't ya hate it when you know you have a neat idea for part of a prop, but no idea how you want to complete it?

[DeathTouch]

PERV!!! .....20 bucks, of course.:D

Sold...I hope she has blue cross blue shield. LOL

[Dr Morbius]

hey, DT..You gonna enter this one?

[DeathTouch]

No, I am too messy. Still living by myself.

[Big Howlin]

No, I am too messy. Still living by myself.

thats the only time you will be able to be messy....trust me. lol

[DeathTouch]

thats the only time you will be able to be messy....trust me. lol

Not when you don't owe this house this time.

[Lilly]

kiss anyone? muahhh
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/colorlips5.jpg
hopefully I will be done with my prop by tues

[dave the dead]

Just in time for Valentine's day, Lilly....are you sure you're working the right holiday?

[Sickie Ickie]

xoxoxoxoxoxox

[Big Howlin]

hopefully I will be done with my prop by tues

Ooooh cant wait!!

[dave the dead]

ok - heres a question....i can make foam skulls for about 1-2 bucks....but i had to make the mold first......i made the mold a while back......so i was wondering if the cost of the mold would be added as well or because the actual foam skull is the only thing going to be in the prop, the cost of the mold wouldn't matter...hope that wasn't a stupid question.....the more i think about it, the more i think that it would be ok to not use the cost of the mols, because that would be like the cost of a power drill......no one puts that in the cost, but it obviously has to be used in some cases....anyway..just checking to make sure....just let me/us know either way...and btw zombie - thanks for unblocking my thing....1031fan

I just spent an hour or so reading this post to get caught up with this challenge....MAN, THIS IS NUTS!!!! I LOVE IT!

I, too would like to know about using greatstuff/foam skulls and how the cost of making the mold figures into this.....I just might have something to throw into this challenge, depending on the answer.....

[rasp]

Got some graphics done for the machine. Examples can be seen at,

http://home.earthlink.net/~pooiotus/id2.html

these aint all of them. Never really know what you'll need till you got the thing put together.

These will be added to the control panels sticking out of the cardboard barrel.

I'm hoping the cost of molds and armatures aren't included in the total price. I use Bucky skulls to forum my paper mache skulls over.

[Big Howlin]

better hurry up! Not much time left! Im falling behind. I just got more hours at work and Ive been procrastinating so much. Ugh...
ZF was right....

[heresjohnny]

Hey Zombie, I need a ruling. My prop is gonna be water driven and I was just gonna control it manually. Today I see a neighbor is throwing away an old washing machine (I see several of these getting tossed out each year), and I want to salvage the water valves and use these to control the prop. Would these be allowed for free, or is there a monetary value you think would be fair?

[Big Howlin]

boo to all your animated props :( gonna kick our static asses.

[dave the dead]

I work in a furniture warehouse, and have ready access to all kinds of packing materials that are considered trash when removed from the furniture. This includes plastic bags, styrofoam blocks, sheets of fabric, lengths of pool noodle-type foam, etc,etc,etc.....if I were to attempt to purchase similar items, there's no way I could build a prop to compete in this challenge...( for instance, a large piece of burlap for a MM prop = one piece of sofa packing fabric)...however, trash-digging these supplies fuels my hobby on a regular basis....Also, these items are given out regularly to the general public, free for the asking......sorry if my question has already been addressed, but.....

what's the concensus on using these types of things but keeping it fair?

[Zombie-F]

Hey Zombie, I need a ruling. My prop is gonna be water driven and I was just gonna control it manually. Today I see a neighbor is throwing away an old washing machine (I see several of these getting tossed out each year), and I want to salvage the water valves and use these to control the prop. Would these be allowed for free, or is there a monetary value you think would be fair?

If it's in the trash and you go digging for it and put in the work to salvage stuff out of junk, it's considered free. Now if you were using the whole washing machine, that'd be a different story.

I work in a furniture warehouse, and have ready access to all kinds of packing materials that are considered trash when removed from the furniture. This includes plastic bags, styrofoam blocks, sheets of fabric, lengths of pool noodle-type foam, etc,etc,etc.....if I were to attempt to purchase similar items, there's no way I could build a prop to compete in this challenge...( for instance, a large piece of burlap for a MM prop = one piece of sofa packing fabric)...however, trash-digging these supplies fuels my hobby on a regular basis....Also, these items are given out regularly to the general public, free for the asking......sorry if my question has already been addressed, but.....

what's the concensus on using these types of things but keeping it fair?

If it's given away or salvaged from the garbage or a dump, you can consider it free being that this is within the bounds of reason.

I'm hoping the cost of molds and armatures aren't included in the total price. I use Bucky skulls to forum my paper mache skulls over.

Since a mold is considered a tool, it will not be counted as part of the cost. The materials that go into the casting you make from the mold are added to the cost.

When you say "armature" what do you mean? If you're referring to a moving part in an electromagnetic device (like a relay or electromagnet) then yes, it is counted in the cost of your prop.

I, too would like to know about using greatstuff/foam skulls and how the cost of making the mold figures into this.....I just might have something to throw into this challenge, depending on the answer.....

See the above answer.

[rasp]

When you say "armature" what do you mean?......

I put aluminum foil over the skull first. Paper mache over that. When dry I cut the paper mache off and use that as the head. How-to on this page.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~tekvov/id3.html

[Zombie-F]

I put aluminum foil over the skull first. Paper mache over that. When dry I cut the paper mache off and use that as the head. How-to on this page.

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~tekvov/id3.html

Is the tin foil re-usable after one copy has been made? Any item that is expendable is added to your price.

[Dr Morbius]

Sometimes, a prop just has to dry.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal003-3.jpg

[Frighteners Entertainment]

Well Doc....You've left me speechless...again! LOL

[Big Howlin]

Hahha omg Doc, thats so funny.
Thats so hot. We need a hot props calender now. lol

[slightlymad]

oh doc what to say

[heresjohnny]

:eek: :googly: :o :D
LMAO Doc! Thats got to be the most memorable prop photo I have ever seen.

[rasp]

LMAO Dr. Morbius. Way to funny dude.

I'll pro rate the foil into the cost of the prop. The only thing left on the Bucky skull is the cut marks. But it's worth it. I can make hundreds of corpses and only need one Bucky skull.

[Dr Morbius]

You know, I used the exact same technique on the Papermache' skull on my prop, and the amount of foil used is SO negligable, I couldn't begin to calculate the cost of it. It HAS to be maybe 2 cents, if that.

[DeathTouch]

Sometimes, a prop just has to dry.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal003-3.jpg

Ohh..Give me so of that Mrs. Yummy...

[Dr Morbius]

:eek: :googly: :o :D
LMAO Doc! Thats got to be the most memorable prop photo I have ever seen.
I actually HAD to let her dry like that, or the paper towels would just keep falling off.
LMAO Dr. Morbius. Way to funny dude.

Thanks, it made me laugh too.
Ohh..Give me so of that Mrs. Yummy...
PERV!

[spokanejoe]

rasp...I love your idea and your "green" approch. Entertainment and recycleing all wrapped up in one. Great job so far!

[rasp]

I actually HAD to let her dry like that, or the paper towels would just keep falling off.

So what's under those paper towels you don't what us to see? JK LOL
Totally cool Doc! That means my prop is worth a hole 2 sents now!!!! LOL

Thanks Spokanejoe, the $20 prop chalange is deffinetaly a 'trash to treasure' endever.

[Lilly]

I changed my mind and made new foam eyes ...not using the the other ones they were clay,
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/newfoameyes1.jpg,http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j136/imdiamondlilly/body%20parts%20from%20foam/newfoameyes3.jpg

nice posing DOC.. haha

[dave the dead]

Sometimes, a prop just has to dry.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal003-3.jpg

GRRRRRRROWWWWLLLLLL!

nice one, Doc.

[Big Howlin]

Im just in the middle of the base of my project, heres a sneak peak.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pumpkinguts/Haunt/Projects/legs.jpg

[Dr Morbius]

OH, didn't I say my vampiress will be impaled with a cross? My bad.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/krystal001.jpg

[Dr Morbius]

Im just in the middle of the base of my project, heres a sneak peak.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pumpkinguts/Haunt/Projects/legs.jpg
Is it a tree of some kind?

[rasp]

Totally cool look Dr. Morbius. That would explain the hole left in the back.

Great looking bubbly eyes Lilly. Can't wait to see the rest of the prop.

Cheetahclub67, Tree? Many armed thing? Spider with a few legs missing. What ever it is it looks cool so far. Paper mache or foam?

[Lilly]

Cheetah ,hmm
looks like a tree base
could be an octopus/squid monster missing some legs,
I like the color so far.
Is that wicker basket inside there?

[Lilly]

Doc,
it's Venus da Vampire.
Great facial expression and posing.

[Big Howlin]

Its just mache with chicken wire :)
Nice cross Doc, that explains the exit wound.

[Lilly]

"Nice cross Doc, that explains the exit wound"> Cheetahclub

maybe I'm not getting the same pics... that wasn't there before...

[Big Howlin]

Yeah I just noticed that too, its not on the others lol

[Dr Morbius]

Yeah I just noticed that too, its not on the others lol
What others? What aren't you guys seeing?

[Lilly]

how long does it take to post an entry?

I wonder how many people will be in this contest

[Lilly]

ok the pic is gone now ...thought it was wrong

[Zombie-F]

how long does it take to post an entry?

I wonder how many people will be in this contest

Didn't have time to go over them over the weekend. When I get home from work tonight I'll try to go over the recent postings.

[Lilly]

thanks Zombie ,figured you were busy.

[Big Howlin]

I saved the pic you want me to post it so you can see it Doc?

[kevin242]

hey All,
I see you guys have gotten a head start on me as usual. My $20 prop is still in its planning stages. I have a question for the group or for ZF in particular:
A neighbor of mine is a teacher at a local school, she came across a bag of six mannequin heads that were getting thrown away. They were used to teach the Votech kids hair cutting and are now completely shaved. I was thinking of using one in my $20 prop, can I say it costs $1 even though it was really free? Any objections? Thanks for your input. Can't wait to see all of your props!

[Zombie-F]

hey All,
I see you guys have gotten a head start on me as usual. My $20 prop is still in its planning stages. I have a question for the group or for ZF in particular:
A neighbor of mine is a teacher at a local school, she came across a bag of six mannequin heads that were getting thrown away. They were used to teach the Votech kids hair cutting and are now completely shaved. I was thinking of using one in my $20 prop, can I say it costs $1 even though it was really free? Any objections? Thanks for your input. Can't wait to see all of your props!


Sounds fine to me!

[dave the dead]

Hey Kevin....those barber heads are really creepy! My wife had one when she was in school, and her car got stolen....we recovered the car, and the only thing missing was the head......
Can't wait to see what you're gonna do with it!

[trishaanne]

I got an entire box of those heads from a beauty supply place..they are great! I also got about 20 packages of hair extenions and about 6-8 of the styro heads that have no faces. They just have those cheesy plastic faces over the opening. I use them for EVERYTHING! It's great getting stuff for free isn't it?

[Dr Morbius]

I have a question..
Can I use a Halloween costume I got at the Goodwill for my daughter for 5 bucks, but she out grew it? I would have tossed it out, which would make it trash, but the thing is real nice, it must have cost around 50 bucks new. My guess is I can, but the term "fair market value" keeps coming to mind. I need a ruling.

[Zombie-F]

I have a question..
Can I use a Halloween costume I got at the Goodwill for my daughter for 5 bucks, but she out grew it? I would have tossed it out, which would make it trash, but the thing is real nice, it must have cost around 50 bucks new. My guess is I can, but the term "fair market value" keeps coming to mind. I need a ruling.

As was the ruling for previous items of this sort (I was going to throw away BUT...), there will be a fair market value associated with it. Since you only paid $5 for it, we'll go with a value of $2.50 for it.

Now, if you had picked it out someone's trash for free, then I'd say it was free.

[Dr Morbius]

That sounds fair..Thank you.

[Beepem]

dudes. im totally freakin out here. ive been looking at magazines and i think ive seen every prop on the monster list now...i have no idea what to make...

dudes.

[Dr Morbius]

Here is the costume..
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/DrMorbius02/20dollarpropchallenge/krystal001-5.jpg

[Bone Dancer]

Nice, does Jeff want that back when your done?

[Dr Morbius]

Thanks, and no, I got it from my daughter.

[Big Howlin]

Just curious..... did you crimp her hair DM? heheh

[dave the dead]

dudes. im totally freakin out here. ive been looking at magazines and i think ive seen every prop on the monster list now...i have no idea what to make...

dudes.

hey beepem....just check your crawlspace tonight at midnight......take a picture of that big furry thing with the glowing eyes and razor sharp teeth, and make that........:D

[Dr Morbius]

hey beepem....just check your crawlspace tonight at midnight......take a picture of that big furry thing with the glowing eyes and razor sharp teeth, and make that........:D
You want him to make a possum?

[dave the dead]

LMOA.....too funny Doc!:jol:

[Beepem]

hahaha nice one....i think i actually got a bit of inspiration from dave the dead like 20 minutes ago....

[Zombie-F]

I haven't announced it yet, but there's a change in the prizes. We have a new first place prize to sweeten the pot, so keep your eyes and ears (not that your ears can read) focused on these forums for the big announcement later this weekend. :devil:

[Big Howlin]

OOOOH WHAT IS IT!! Ohh! OOh!
*jumps up and down*
Very exciting news! :D

[Fangs]

All I can say is WOW!..... The entries are sweet..... And the prizes,..... I can't wait to see what it is that has "sweetened the pot!" :devil: LOL Guess I better get a fire going underneath my prop... hehehe

[Dr Morbius]

I haven't announced it yet, but there's a change in the prizes. We have a new first place prize to sweeten the pot, so keep your eyes and ears (not that your ears can read) focused on these forums for the big announcement later this weekend. :devil:
Question:

Is the new prize in place of the original, or is it in addition to the original first place prize?

[Frighteners Entertainment]

It will be in place of, moving the original to a second place prize.
If I remember right...!:D

[Lilly]

Wow that will be nice ...even though al the prizes are great so far.

[Dr Morbius]

Holy crap! The Gargoyle was too much..What could possibly top it?

[Zombie-F]

Holy crap! The Gargoyle was too much..What could possibly top it?

You'll see... and you'll crap your drawers when you do! :devil: :zombie:

[CerysCrow]

Arrrrgggh! I can't stand the anticipation!