Southwest Ohio Haunters Group

[dave the dead]

Just wondering if there is any interest in possibly forming a Southwest Ohio Haunters group? I am from Indianapolis, but I have a space available in Wilmington, Oh (n of cinicinatti on I74) that would be perfect for make-n-take gatherings.

So....any takers???????

[BooGirl666]

YAY!!!! Count me in.... thanx dave!!! This is gonna rock!!!

[dave the dead]

AllRight! There's one enthusiastic haunter....any others?????

[dave the dead]

Well BG.....I guess SW Ohio isn't ready for a haunt group.......:mad:

Come on people.....maybe sometime in mid march???? who wants to build some props??????:D

[turtle2778]

Me too, im only like 2 hours away

[dave the dead]

Me too, im only like 2 hours away

great! Any ideas on what you would like to work on? :D

[Frighteners Entertainment]

I think a good place to get this thing going would be a meeting at IronStock.
Just meet there and work out the details!

[dave the dead]

I think a good place to get this thing going would be a meeting at IronStock.
Just meet there and work out the details!


good idea FE.....but I don't want to wait that long! LOL...:p

[BooGirl666]

Hey Dave... are you goin to Ironstock? Maybe FE is right.... I expected a bigger turn out lol.

[BooGirl666]

well i guess it will only be a few of us. I'm still down with this make n take. I like the idea of making molds and I was thinkin maybe corpsing something. I might be able to get another person too ;) but I gotta talk her into it :D. What do you and turtle think? Still wanna do it?

[dave the dead]

well i guess it will only be a few of us. I'm still down with this make n take. I like the idea of making molds and I was thinkin maybe corpsing something. I might be able to get another person too ;) but I gotta talk her into it :D. What do you and turtle think? Still wanna do it?

of course....anytime after apr7....I'll put a list of possibilities together for making, and lets go build some dead things!

[BooGirl666]

sounds good dave!!! can't wait!!!

[dave the dead]

Well, it looks like April 14th is the day! We will be meeting in Wilmington, Ohio which is not far from Kings Island. We'll be talking monster mud, skull molds, pneumatics, and anything else that goes bump in the night. If anyone else is interested, just let me know!
(and we might actually be making something....LOL!)

[Bauton]

You can count me in. I'll be there. Let me know if I need to bring anything.

[BooGirl666]

hey ya bauton.. I'm glad ya made it over.... dave meet bauton, bauton meet dave :D

[BooGirl666]

Well it looks like there will be 3 of us meeting!!!! Yay I can't wait to meet you guys.... woo hoo 2 more days!!!

[dave the dead]

Yepper! I think I am ready for this! I just hope I haven't forgotten some small critical part that will keep us from finishing our pneumatics
<<I am REALLY worried about this....:( I hope I don't let you guys down!>>>

BG, you should bring along that new mache head of yours for show and tell!:)

[BooGirl666]

lol yall really wanna see that? its really not that great in person lol the camera did well lol.... and it's ok if ya forget something... i guess ;) we'll figure something out ;)

[BooGirl666]

WOO-HOO!!!!!!! Just got back from the make n take..... Thanx Dave!!!! This was sooooo much fun... hehe Anyways here are the pics and video's i got...

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/babygirl_kmp/Make%20N%20Take%204-14-07/

Definately planning another one!!!!

[Bauton]

Yes, we definitely had a great time. Sorry I had to leave early, your pop ups turned out great!!! Talk with you later.

[BooGirl666]

It was soo great to meet you bauton!!! Next time gotta stay longer ;) and Thanx.... make sure you get pics of your pop-up when ya get it together... We have decided that Bry's looks scary, Dave's looks happy, and well mine... lol looks scared outta its mind lol

[turtle2778]

Those are GREAT!!! Im soo sorry i missed it. Well maybe next time. Im totally jealous.

[dave the dead]

:D

I can't believe we actually got this group started! Our first meeting was a blast! Here's a short vid of the pneumatic heads we made...I sure wish I had a 3 way spliitter to get that middle head in on the action!

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Start thinking about a date for May....and what will be next for this group to build.....:xbones:

[turtle2778]

okay dave, when are we meeting...how bout this weekend???

[dave the dead]

okay dave, when are we meeting...how bout this weekend???

If you want to drive to Indy, I'll catch you up with the group....I bought enough supplies just in case you decided to show up :p

[Bauton]

My vote is May 12th or 19th. Maybe we can come up with some ideas to combat the lighting difference this year because of the time change?

[dave the dead]

My vote is May 12th or 19th. Maybe we can come up with some ideas to combat the lighting difference this year because of the time change?

How's everyone feel about the 19th? The 12th is Mother's day weekend, and while I personaly have no problem with building dead things when I should be honoring motherhood, it sounded like Turtle does.....:rolleyes:

so, anybody want to meet on the 19th?

[Dr Morbius]

Wow! Looks like you guys had a terrific time..wish I lived closer to where all the make n takes are.

[dave the dead]

Wow! Looks like you guys had a terrific time..wish I lived closer to where all the make n takes are.

It was kind of funny, Doc.....I have this....umm..."reputation" at the bookstore we were building at......several people poked their heads in throughout the day and said "is DAVE giving classes now?!? I didn't know that....where do I sign up?!?" I think this could get out of control real quick.....

[Bauton]

19th will work for me. Maybe start at 9 instead of 10?

[BooGirl666]

19th will work for me. Maybe start at 9 instead of 10?

Geesh you early bird... lol jk I'm ok with the 19th and at 9am... Now if I can get my mom to come here and tell ya what she thinks lol.. I'll have to call her.... That was funny watching people come in and out with amazement... And all the questions... Good Times Good Times!!

Ok so what we making now... You know my brother, Bry, wants to build mud monsters :eek: I have no clue what we can make next so I'm up for any ideas.... Can't wait!!

[dave the dead]

9:00 am is fine with me too.
As for the monster mud, we can do it, but theres definitely some logistics to think about.....we could build framework one meeting, apply mud the next, and maybe finish up on the third. And then, you'd have to figure out how to get them home.
Or.....we could do a "community project" that would stay at the bookstore, and that way everyone could see the method and make their own at home. (just throwing out ideas)
I'll try to come up with some one-day projects, and in the meantime, everyone else think of what you would like to make!

[turtle2778]

I only have a problem with the 12th because i have my family coming to spend Mothers Day with us. I can bring my mom, but my sister and her husband are coming for he first time also. The 19th for me please. Im up for 9am, please make sure we are sure on time. Im 3 hours away and wanna make sure i dont get up for nothing

[turtle2778]

If you want to drive to Indy, I'll catch you up with the group....I bought enough supplies just in case you decided to show up :p

Dave if youre willing meet with me before the next MNT then ill come to you. Just let me know, and thanks

[dave the dead]

Ok gang! who's thought up a project for the next meeting? May 19th is gonna come up quick!
Bauton, how's your pneumatic pop-up coming? Need anything to finish it up?
Anybody getting anywhere with their skull mold?

[turtle2778]

Today was one of the all time best days ive had in a LOOONG time, thanks to dave the dead. I wasnt able to make the MNT a last weekend and Dave being the awesome guy he is said he would meet me at his house this weekend. Where do i start? I learned soo many cool things today its unreal. I got the oportuntity to learn start making a skull mold so that i can make skulls in the future. I learned how to make a skull stack light which is freaking awesome!!! I got to make the kick a** pop up prop which im going to make be a screamer. OMG sooo much. He showed me about 2 part apoxy and how to make it work and the best things to use for foam heads. How to make a mother mold....OH and my personal favorite the best eyes EVER!!! Those eyes were worth the entire 4 hour round trip. Hell on top of all that his wife even fed me lunch, which was great. Dave sure does know his stuff. He was super patient with me and all my questions and interuptions. He showed me about all kinds of things and made things ALOT more simple for me. I brought all my stuff home and got to show my kids what i made, it was a really great feeling to have my 13 year old say "WOW, mom thats cool...you made that??" He isnt easily impressed with the whole halloween thing. Sooo for those of you out there that live in the Indiana, Kentucky, SW Ohio area...please try and come to the next make and take I promise you wont be sorry. Thanks again DAVE you and your wife were wonderful and i really appreciate you taking time out of your weekend to help me learn things.

[dave the dead]

Today was one of the all time best days ive had in a LOOONG time, thanks to dave the dead. I wasnt able to make the MNT a last weekend and Dave being the awesome guy he is said he would meet me at his house this weekend. Where do i start? I learned soo many cool things today its unreal. I got the oportuntity to learn start making a skull mold so that i can make skulls in the future. I learned how to make a skull stack light which is freaking awesome!!! I got to make the kick a** pop up prop which im going to make be a screamer. OMG sooo much. He showed me about 2 part apoxy and how to make it work and the best things to use for foam heads. How to make a mother mold....OH and my personal favorite the best eyes EVER!!! Those eyes were worth the entire 4 hour round trip. Hell on top of all that his wife even fed me lunch, which was great. Dave sure does know his stuff. He was super patient with me and all my questions and interuptions. He showed me about all kinds of things and made things ALOT more simple for me. I brought all my stuff home and got to show my kids what i made, it was a really great feeling to have my 13 year old say "WOW, mom thats cool...you made that??" He isnt easily impressed with the whole halloween thing. Sooo for those of you out there that live in the Indiana, Kentucky, SW Ohio area...please try and come to the next make and take I promise you wont be sorry. Thanks again DAVE you and your wife were wonderful and i really appreciate you taking time out of your weekend to help me learn things.

:D .....And I'm telling you all, she was like this ALL DAY LONG!!! LMAO!!! What a fun time to get together with some nice folks who truly love Halloween and aren't afraid to try something new! Turtle, it was great to meet you and building was a blast! Seriously, folks, this is a fun group to be with, and we are all learning together.....anybody who would like to come to our next make-n-take is welcome! :D

[BooGirl666]

lol Yay Turtle your now caught up...... What's next... I'm down with building anything so whatever you guys want is cool with me!!! Can't wait til the 19th!!!

[turtle2778]

Hey Dave what about this thingy? Have you done it before? It looks pretty cool. http://www.hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=6272 Might be a good MNT project.

[Bauton]

I've got my pop up all hooked up and ready to go. Just waiting for my FIL to let me borrow his compressor for a test run. I saw Turtle's post about the eyes, I would like to see that if possible next time. I look around some more and see if I can find some ideas for the next meet. Only 190 days to go, pressure is on.

[dave the dead]

It sounds like it's decided then.....we will be making Flying Crank Ghosts on May 19th! I will put together a materials list tonight and let you all know what to go shop for. There is also a little bit of prep work that can be done ahead of time to make the actual build go quicker.....I'll just let you know what the homework is, class!:D

sounds like we will have a couple ghosts, a skeleton, and maybe a pirate being made....sound like fun!

[Fright Zone]

I'm in Dayton (Kettering to be exact). But my yard haunt has been up North. It's neat to see there's people around here who do this. Practically-speaking there's no way I'd get up that early to drive. I don't have storage room for anymore props. I built too many last year.

However I did enjoy seeing your photos and video on photobucket in this thread. I'd encourage you to keep documenting the get-togethers. Those are some good projects. That old brick, or is it stone, building does look like an appropriate place to hold such an event. It felt like I was actually there LOL

[dave the dead]

excuses, excuses, excuses.....awe, come on down and join us Frightzone....we don't bite (much):D

Here's the link to the famous Doug Ferguson FLYING CRANK GHOST (audience applause )http://www.phantasmechanics.com/fcghost1.html

Check the materials list, and read thru the how-to. It looks way more complicted than it actually is! Hold off on buying the motor for now. I need to do some checking, since I have read that the Dayton gearmotor they have listed is no longer available...I have alway used a rotisserie motor in mine.(under 20 bucks)
Round up as much of the shopping list as you can, and then I'll let you know what to do ahead of time.:p

[Fright Zone]

Dave of the Dead talked me into it. If I can make it at the ungodly witching hour of 9AM Sat May 19th I'll come by. It should take 50 min to get there. I'd plan on videotaping or photographing some of the FCG construction so I have working knowledge of how to put one together in the future. I told Dave my static K Mart ghost attached to weighted photo flood light stands lit with a blacklight in the bedroom window pleased the ToT's last year. I just don't need another prop especially one that screws into the ceiling LOL But it would be fun to see how they're made. Reading about them and actually seeing them made are two different things. An FCG is a prop every yard haunted should at least know how to make.

I plan to bring my cooler and trash can fog chillers for everyone to see since that sounds like the next essential prop build next time out. This way you can see finished ones in person to decide if you want to build a cooler or a trash can chiller version or both next time. (Wal-Mart has a big stock of 48 qt and 60 qt Igloo Ice cube coolers in-season this time of year). I was one of those invloved in the Vortex manual thread last year. I used both styles in my yard haunt successfully last year. The cooler was hooked up to a plastic cauldron and the trash can chiller worked the graveyard shift (so to speak). Either style works well to create low-lying or at least heavy lingering slow-moving semi-controlled fog compared to straight-out-of-the-fogger-all-over-the-place-out-of-control fog.

[turtle2778]

OMG are you whining about a 50 minute drive, im gunna smack you when i get there. LOL. I have to drive 3 hours for you people and im stoked about it. I have to get up at 5 to get my crap together to leave by 6 and then drive home another 3 hours. And BG showed me a link on making the FGC that didnt use the bike tire, that is just cumbersome as hell. Is there a way to do it without that. I need a list of what i need or do i just use that link and go with it, also i found rotisserie motors on ebay for 5 dollars and the proceeds go to a boy scout troup. Just lettin ya know. :D

[dave the dead]

:confused: Bike tire? Wat-chu talkin bout willis?:confused:

just go with the phantasmechanics link....tried and true! If you get ambitious, go ahead and cut the aluminum down to the sizes they say. That will save some time on the 19th.

good deal on the rotisserie motor! are you going to go for it?

[turtle2778]

hahahahahah
okay and where would i find that aluminum??

[turtle2778]

okay well guess iw as wrong again..what a shocker. Should i just use the list they on the link for a parts list? THANKS

[dave the dead]

hahahahahah
okay and where would i find that aluminum??

check your local hardware store- home depot,lowes,menards--they will all have the aluminum available.
yes, use the parts list from phantasmechanics as your shopping list!

[dave the dead]

http://www.kickthefog.com/crank_ghost.htm

Babygirl_kmp sent this link to me. It is a slightly different FCG setup, and the directions look to be pretty easy to follow. check it out and feel free to use whichever looks best.
The supply list on this link is really easy to read and has pix of the individual parts. Thanks BG....I like it!

[Bauton]

Good find bg!!! This one looks easier to follow.

[BooGirl666]

Why thank ya :D This is the one I used to make my ghost... never made the motor part tho so this should be fun :D

[turtle2778]

WEll hell the motor on here for the dayton is like 40 bucks. Thats quite a project. On top of the 40+ in gas, we gotta come up with a motor that will work for this thats cheaper than that.

[dave the dead]

WEll hell the motor on here for the dayton is like 40 bucks. Thats quite a project. On top of the 40+ in gas, we gotta come up with a motor that will work for this thats cheaper than that.

patience, Turtle, patience.....I'm working on it. I always try to find a cheaper alternative whenever I can....rotisserie will work fine.
when you get done with this project, it will be worth every penney!:D
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/davethedead/projects034.jpg

[turtle2778]

patience is NOT one of my virtues my friend. Ill try harder.

[dave the dead]

hey guys! I just scored all the aluminum we need for our ghost platforms! If you have alredy purchased and haven't cut your's up yet, hope you saved the receipt! I will precut everything and have it all ready for the 19th!

unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a cheap motor alternative....I can say that a rotisserie motor will work ok (like for a babrbq grill) or just bite the bullet and get the dayton (check monterguts for their dayton motor alternate!...cheaper and more torque)

[turtle2778]

Well my concern with the rotisserie one is that it will burn out easily. Maybe i should just use it for something else and get the MonsterGuts one. Its still 50 bucks, but i wont have to remake this in a year or 2. What do you think?

[BooGirl666]

Has anyone checked on a group buy or motors? Maybe if we all get together and make one order for them we'll get a discount.

[skullboy]

Well my concern with the rotisserie one is that it will burn out easily. Maybe i should just use it for something else and get the MonsterGuts one. Its still 50 bucks, but i wont have to remake this in a year or 2. What do you think?

For what its worth my rotosserie motor is on its fourth year.I run mine for 2 weeks at 5 hours a night,and halloween 12 hours.I dont think you can complai about that.:)

[Bauton]

is the rotisserie motor? Can't afford to go to high on price on my end at least. Maybe we can go with the cheaper motor this time to see how the ghost works, and then can upgrade as personal taste allow?

[Bauton]

my edit from yesterday didn't show up. Wanted to bump so everyone could see my suggestion.

[turtle2778]

I got mine yesterday. I paid 11 dollars wit shipping for 2 of them. I got it off ebay.

[BooGirl666]

Bauton did you call about the motors?

[turtle2778]

Yeah hey B did ya...huh huh???

[Bauton]

Check your messages for news!!!

Hey, my tagline says I'm uneasy. Who knew?

[turtle2778]

LOL, yea cuz what i heard from the last meeting was that you were cheap AND easy...HUH guess they were wrong. LOL

[dave the dead]

I am cutting the aluminum today for our FCG rigs. Also, I picked up a bunch of good thick coathangers, so I have that part of the build covered too.

Has anyone had any luck finding a styrofoam wighead????? I just don't know where to get one this time of year. Any suggestions?

How's everyone doing on locating the parts from their list?

[turtle2778]

I got mine at sallies, but you can get them off ebay. You were serious about that????? OMG!!!! Okay well i gotta go.LOL. Dave we are meeting on the 19th right?

[dave the dead]

I got mine at sallies, but you can get them off ebay. You were serious about that????? OMG!!!! Okay well i gotta go.LOL. Dave we are meeting on the 19th right?

well....ok then....duh! I guess I really haven't looked around much for the wighead. I used to be blonde before it all fell out.......:googly:

Yes, the 19th @ 9:00 am

[turtle2778]

LOL!!! We are using the kickin frog list correct? Are we also doing the LED"s as well, just wanna make sure i get everything i need at once. Also where did you guys get 10yds of cheese cloth?

[dave the dead]

don't worry about cheesecloth, Turtle......I have a huge bolt of it that is just now soaking in Rit Whitener. Plenty to share....also BG said she had a bunch, too.
You will have to send me the kicking frog link so I can look it over....I lost it somehow.

[pyro]

just in case your still looking-----http://search.ebay.com/rotisserie-motor_W0QQfromZR18QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd---the guy has 3

[dave the dead]

oh yeah....don't worry about LED's either......I have that one covered as well.....results of a scrounge mission, I scored a bunch of pre-wired red led's, including the battery holder and blinking chip! We will have to modify slightly, but no problem at all......

[dave the dead]

just in case your still looking-----http://search.ebay.com/rotisserie-motor_W0QQfromZR18QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd---the guy has 3

thanks Pyro, but we have all gone with the Dayton 2Z806. Grainger has discontinued, but are clearancing out their remaining stock for $21 each! (phone order only, no internet order....1-888-361-8649):D

[turtle2778]

Cool, thanks guys. Thats awesome.

[BooGirl666]

So.... what exactly is our shopping list? lol

[Bauton]

I have a life sized rubber heart, and I'm looking for a way to make it look like it is beating. Any ideas on a small motor that would accomplish this?

[dave the dead]

So.... what exactly is our shopping list? lol

BG, it is everything for the build EXCEPT the aluminum, the cheesecloth, the coathangers, and the LED eyes.....all the little hardware stuff and a wighead and some glue. If you all want, I could sort thru the how-to and shorten up the list to make it easier......the remaining supplies SHOULD end up around 10-15 bucks, or less (just a guess....don't quote me)

[turtle2778]

Dave why dont ya run through with a little shortened list. I got all the hardware so i just wanna double check. THANKS

[dave the dead]

ok, here it goes then:D

foam wighead or lightweight skull
3 small pulleys (the smaller the better)
stiff paper or thin plastic for hands (I have used a milk carton before...worked great)
elmer's glue or tacky glue
1.5 inch long 1/4-20 bolts----- need a total of 5
1/4" nuts ---I have counted 20 used in the directions
large fender washer ---- just one
1/4" flat washers--- total of 10
Lock washers--- total of 10
2in long 1/4" eye bolts--- total of 5
6 to 9 ft extension cord ---- just one (like a lamp cord)

I am not sure of the size of the bolts to hold the motors on yet....Bauton will let us know when he gets the motors in hand.

In addition to this, please bring these tools if possible: (this is optional...I can share:D )
Pliers, regular and needlenose
wire cutters
Scissors
Drill and bits

[dave the dead]

Just checking folks.....we are still on for the 19th, right? One more week....woo hoo!:D

Doing ok on the hardware list? Let me know if you need help finding anything.....

[Lagrousome]

Dugh!!!! How did I miss this????? So there will be a make n take kinda thing next Saturday???? This will be making an FCG???? I would be all in for that!! Let me know & I'll get all the supplied I need and be there with bells.....I mean fangs, on! I'll go back through and read from the first post, but if it is still possible to join in, I would like to! I really want to make one of those infamous fly gals!
Thanks!

[dave the dead]

Dugh!!!! How did I miss this????? So there will be a make n take kinda thing next Saturday???? This will be making an FCG???? I would be all in for that!! Let me know & I'll get all the supplied I need and be there with bells.....I mean fangs, on! I'll go back through and read from the first post, but if it is still possible to join in, I would like to! I really want to make one of those infamous fly gals!
Thanks!

Well, sure Lagrousome.....the more the merrier! I'll send you a PM with some specifics, but come on and join the fun.

Dave

[dave the dead]

I have a life sized rubber heart, and I'm looking for a way to make it look like it is beating. Any ideas on a small motor that would accomplish this?

not sure about movement, but you could use one of the blinking red l.e.d. set ups that we will using for the eyes inside the heart....a red binking heart would look pretty cool. (Davey Jones won't care.....)

[morgan8586]

Damn, the 19th? Sorry....once again I have to work. Have fun guys!

[Lagrousome]

My daughter & I will be coming in on the 18th in the afternoon to Wilmington & staying at the Holiday Inn....if any of the gals are interested in sharing a room, let me know. I will make the reservations in a couple of days...so if there are any takers, let me know. (The 3 1/2 hour ride each way is just a bit for my little one.....so it is just easier to come in early and spend the night....besides, neither one of us is a morning gal)

[turtle2778]

I have to drive 3+ hours too. Im coming from KY. I never even thought of a hotel room. The gas alone was almost more than i wanted to spend. I cant wait to meet you. Hey morgan too bad on missing you again. Hope you have a good day at work though. Im getting my list of stuff today dave, ill let you know what i couldnt find if anything.

[Lagrousome]

Turtle,
I know, the price on the gas stinks.....but I figure the Hotel will be well worth the $ if my daughter isn't a complete crank! (me too for that matter.....) I'm going to get a room anyway.....so if you want to come in the night before, you are welcome to stay with us! Just let me know!

[turtle2778]

AAAh youre sweet to offer. Ill talk with my husband about it. How is old is your daughter by the way?

[Lagrousome]

Turtle....
I sent you a PM, so keep me posted!

[BooGirl666]

SWWWWWEEEEETTTT!!!! More fresh bood :D..... Dang I go back to work and look at what i miss... lol.... can't wait to meet ya lagrousome and your daughter!!!!

[dave the dead]

Hey guys....Please add a 9 volt battery to your shopping list. I was messing with the LEDS, and had to go 9volt to keep the brightness of the lights.

edit! no 9 volt...darnit! That blew the lights....back to the drawing board....:(

the good news is that you will be able to choose your eye color now....yellow, red, green, blue....details on Saturday!

[Lagrousome]

Hello BG....wondering where you have been! Back to work....that stinks!!! Looking forward to meeting you too!
Thanks Dave.....let us know if we need to add anything.....

[BooGirl666]

hey dave.... i have my LED's from my wighead I made using a 9-volt... Try using a 330 ohm 1/2 watt resistor in between the LED wires... If that's the case, I have the resistors so no one will need to get em

[BooGirl666]

Hey lagrousome.. how old is your daughter?

[BooGirl666]

Damn, the 19th? Sorry....once again I have to work. Have fun guys!

You damn workaholic!!!! Are you ever gonna come play with us????

[Lagrousome]

Hello BG
She'll be 7 this summer......might as well start them young!!!!

[BooGirl666]

:D atta girl!!! Aww I hope she gets into it... Brian brought his son last time and he seemed to like it... well when his nose wasn't in his gameboy :p

[dave the dead]

hey dave.... i have my LED's from my wighead I made using a 9-volt... Try using a 330 ohm 1/2 watt resistor in between the LED wires... If that's the case, I have the resistors so no one will need to get em

well!!!!! check out the techie!!!:D lol! Bring-em along and we can see which way is easier....I have used 9volt batteries before, but with a different type of LED and just wired them up direct.....just wait to see these cool lights i found, though....he he he he.

[Lagrousome]

So Dave....do we need to add the 9v to our list?

[Bauton]

Haven't been able to keep up with the forum the last few days. Is everything still a go for Saturday?

[dave the dead]

Haven't been able to keep up with the forum the last few days. Is everything still a go for Saturday?

yep, its a go!
so far, I know that BG, Mist,Turtle, Lagrousome, and you are all coming.

Hopefully everyone has been able to get all their parts......

[Bauton]

WOW:eek:

sounds like a full house!!!

Might have to shut down the book store, or set up extra parking to handle the overflow!!!

[dave the dead]

WOW:eek:

sounds like a full house!!!

Might have to shut down the book store, or set up extra parking to handle the overflow!!!

Oh yeah...good point....park in the open lot in the alley diagonally behind the store, not on the street!!!!:)

[BooGirl666]

lol dave im not techie.... lol... I'll bring my "alien head" and show ya.... Damn I gotta get a list together of stuff I need to bring... cheesecloth, supply, "alien", hmmm what else?? lol... Hope yall dont mind listening to my crappy voice.. Still sick so I'll say it now.... SORRY :D

[turtle2778]

Hey dave since i havent been before could you pm me with the exact address so i dont get lost? THANKS Sorry your sicks BG, just stay far far on the other side from me. I have my parts list together. Do i need anything else besides what was on the condensed version of your list dave? THANKS

[turtle2778]

ok, here it goes then:D

foam wighead or lightweight skull
3 small pulleys (the smaller the better)
stiff paper or thin plastic for hands (I have used a milk carton before...worked great)
elmer's glue or tacky glue
1.5 inch long 1/4-20 bolts----- need a total of 5
1/4" nuts ---I have counted 20 used in the directions
large fender washer ---- just one
1/4" flat washers--- total of 10
Lock washers--- total of 10
2in long 1/4" eye bolts--- total of 5
6 to 9 ft extension cord ---- just one (like a lamp cord)

I am not sure of the size of the bolts to hold the motors on yet....Bauton will let us know when he gets the motors in hand.

In addition to this, please bring these tools if possible: (this is optional...I can share:D )
Pliers, regular and needlenose
wire cutters
Scissors
Drill and bits

Now this is what im bringing. I dont have wire cutters, im gunna check at walmart today though. Ill need them again in the future im sure. And i got the biggest fender washer they had. I hope it was the right size. Also after reading the guys statements about the hands...are we just balling this up and hooking a line to it? I wanna make sure it looks floaty (is that a word?) Do we need to bring any food or money or drinks? Just covering my bases, im leaving at 5:30 to make it on time.

[dave the dead]

Turtle, don't worry about the wire cutters if you don't want to spend the $$ right now....that won't be that big of a deal. ( the wire cutters I have slice thru a coathanger like nothing)

I have made hands in the past by cutting them out of a milk carton. This worked out really well because it blends with the transparent look of the ghost, is weatherproof, and is a bit stiffer than the paper suggested by phantasmechanics. I think it is important for the ghost to have a good looking hand that blends well with the entire appearance.

You may do what you want for food and drinks. The last meeting we bought our lunch at the deli that is in the bookstore....by lunchtime the smell of fresh chocolate chip cookies and frying bacon will be too much to bear.....mmmmmm! (but if you'd rather bring your own, that's totally up to you)

Did you ever find your blacklights that you wanted to buy? I could swing by Menards tonight and pick up as many as you would like....$10 for a 24 inch light...just say the word....:)

[turtle2778]

Bragger...ya know it kills me not to have a menards close by. But lucky for me my parents got me 4 of them for mothers day. Are you talking just the plastic milk jug? Cuz if so i need to save the one i have. Okay talk to you soon.

[dave the dead]

yep...just a plastic milk jug.

[BooGirl666]

Hey all.... where's the pics at??? lol

[dave the dead]

BG, I think their heads are still spinning from that whirlwind FCG build! LOL!

[Lagrousome]

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052014.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052013.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052012.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052011.jpg

Here are 4 of the 8 pics I have.
I forget how to upload them...so hopefully this works.

[Lagrousome]

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052010.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052009.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052008.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa256/Lagrousome/052007.jpg

Here are the other 4....and I went back in and fixed the sideways shot of Dave! (sorry about that DTD)

[Lagrousome]

OK....now I uploaded them both the same way...buy why the first set uploaded small and next set uploaded so large....I have NO IDEA? Oh well......I'll have to work on figuring out the upload thing another time.
We're heading out for camping at the lake this weekend so I must go pack up the camper!
Hope everyone has a great & safe Memorial Weekend!
Thanks again to everyone there at the MNT and a big "Thank You" to DTD...we couldn't have done this without YOU!!!

[BooGirl666]

:eek::sick: you people and taking pictures of me

[Bauton]

Thanks for posting the picks!!!

Now I have proof for my wife to show that I was actually at a MNT and didn't just pick-up my FCG off the side of the road some where.

I know she thinks I'm crazy when I say "the other day, me and Dave the Dead".:googly: Now I can show her that it's not me that's crazy, it's Dave:eek:

[dave the dead]

Hey guys! I was just wondering if anyone ever had time to finish up their FCG"s? I'd love to see pics of how they turned out !

I also wondered if anybody had thought about coming up to Wilmington on July 20th for the midnight release of "Deathly Hallows" ? The party is from 5 until midnight, and Wilmington will be shutting down 2 blocks for the event....music, food, games, (and a harry potter themed Haunt put on by your's truly!)

If you can come and would be interested in helping in the haunt for a few hours, let me know.:)

[1031fan]

hey dave! which ones you? its nice to put a face to names around here - riley

[dave the dead]

hey dave! which ones you? its nice to put a face to names around here - riley

In the last picture, look in the background near center.....that's me hanging from the ceiling.....I'm the skinny one on the right.

[BooGirl666]

In the last picture, look in the background near center.....that's me hanging from the ceiling.....I'm the skinny one on the right.

LOL..... Dave's on the far left... Watching his students mess everything up :D hehe...
Hey Dave.... I'm gonna try and make it up there can't promise yet.... :D

[DeathTouch]

How did you make those things in the background? They look like dark ghosts.

[dave the dead]

How did you make those things in the background? They look like dark ghosts.

yep, those are my "rising spirits" props. There is more info on them in the How-to section.

Thanks for ratting me out BG!:D I think I might have fooled him if it hadn't been for you.

[Bauton]

I'm still working on my wife to let me come up. If I can, I'll most likely have 3 volunteers and possibly one more. I'll let you know a.s.a.p.

[BooGirl666]

I should be up there after I get off work. And my mom and brother should be coming with me. We may be a lil late but o well we should be there :) Cya guys soon!!

[Lagrousome]

Sorry I can't make it there this time Dave. Sounds like it's gonna be a really great time!
BTW, still working on the FCG. I ripped the wires from the eyes to the battery pack out when I went to move a saw on a table that was underneath hear......crap! Then I am still playing with the cheesecloth and hands. Hope to have her finished soon. It just irritates me how work gets in the way of play!

[Adam I]

Hey guys! I was just wondering if anyone ever had time to finish up their FCG"s? I'd love to see pics of how they turned out !

I also wondered if anybody had thought about coming up to Wilmington on July 20th for the midnight release of "Deathly Hallows" ? The party is from 5 until midnight, and Wilmington will be shutting down 2 blocks for the event....music, food, games, (and a harry potter themed Haunt put on by your's truly!)

If you can come and would be interested in helping in the haunt for a few hours, let me know.:)
Dave, Any tips for showing up tomarrow night?

[Dr Morbius]

This sounds like fun..I have my plane ticket ready. Well, it looks like DTD isn't Bigfoot afterall! (He knows what I mean...heheh). Oh...just kidding about the plane ticket. But who knows? Maybe someday....

[BooGirl666]

Hey guys...... Do yall wanna do another MNT soon?

[dave the dead]

Hey guys...... Do yall wanna do another MNT soon?

My August is pretty wide open.....what did you have in mind BG?

[turtle2778]

I DO I DO, but i wanna go to daves house. :D He has all the fun stuff there. What about working on fog chillars and LED spots. I need to do both of those and they are pretty quick and easy props.

[BooGirl666]

August is cool with me as long as its not the weekend of August 22... Thats my daughters birthday and I think I may be forced to have a party..As for what to make... I'm ok with the LED spots... I could use a few... Also I was thinking maybe we could make some rocks... Anyways let me know what ya guys think!!!

[dave the dead]

Ya know...there's really nothing saying we have to all work on the same project.....This one could be a free-for-all and everyone could see a different prop being made.
(I would be ok with spots too...waiting to see what heresjohnny posts about that project....I also like Otaku's idea of just using small led flashlights)

[turtle2778]

Hey thats true, we could all jsut work on our own thing. Im okay with the flashlight thing too as long as i can change the bulbs out to colored ones. Hey dave wheres that link for otakus post. Thanks

[turtle2778]

ooh and i cant do it Aug 11th oops sorry i forgot abuot my sons birthday party since its the week after his birthday. Im open though as far as i know other than that one. :D

[dave the dead]

BG, with aug 22 on a wednesday, which weekend are you going to have your daughter's party?
Looks like we are narrowing this down to aug 18, aug25 or sept1. (all of which I could do)
Turtle, Otaku just mentioned somewhere in the current LED spotlight thread that he bought a cheap led flashlight from biglots and used wax paper as a diffuser....you could also rubber band colored saran wrap to get different colors.

[turtle2778]

OOOH cool thanks dave...YOU ROCK MAN !!!

[BooGirl666]

Dave it would be the 25th weekend.... Doing different stuff huh... Ok lol Just let me know when you guys wanna meet and we'll figure something out... I guess I'll make my MM not sure what i want to do but I got 2 ideas in mind... I may make some rocks too since i need those too

[dave the dead]

working on different props is just one possibility...I'm really up for anything...let's see what the rest of the group wants to do.....

[turtle2778]

Dave i got a few recliner mechs if you are interested.

[BooGirl666]

I'm down with building our own stuff or we can do a group thing.... Don't matter to me just wanna hang with my halloween buddies :D ;)

[turtle2778]

Hey im all for doin a group thing too. What ever works for the group. :D

[BooGirl666]

Yoo hoo Lagrousome..... Bauton where ya guys at????

[Lagrousome]

I'm here....I', here!!
I think I just made Krypt mad....so I'll be laying low for a while!
(check out the 2007 sign of times posts)
*sad face*
don't like making anyone mad
But, back to halloween and prop making!
I'm up for it!
Couldn't make it to Ironstock or Columbus......hubby had first dibs of being gone so I had the kiddos, but let me know and I'll be there with bells....oops, I mean "bats" on!
Any idea of what we'll do?

[Lagrousome]

Ooo, btw,
Congrats to the post whore!!!!!

[BooGirl666]

LOL thanx Lagrousome!! Your the first to notice

[turtle2778]

okay sooooo where are we at with this one?

[dave the dead]

okay sooooo where are we at with this one?


August 18th or September 1st????? Come on guys, let's get it together!

....and what are we working on now?:googly:

[BooGirl666]

I'm cool with any of those dates and i'm up for building anything :)

[Lagrousome]

Aug 18th works better for me...Sept 1 is Labor Day Weekend/Wedding Anniv. Weekend.......but whatever works for everyone else.

[turtle2778]

The 18th is good for me. Where would we meet?

[dave the dead]

Ok, I think we have a date then....Aug 18th. Let's plan on meeting at Books-N-More again if that is ok with everyone....Indy would be a bit of a stretch for lagrousome.
Build ideas so far..... LED spots, fog chiller, do your own thing.....

I have 2 possibilities....we could make pvc frame "creatures" like my Grim Jr. Or we could make rising spirits.....either would be fairly inexpensive and be a pretty easy build.....waddaya'll think?

[turtle2778]

Either one of them would be fine for me. I do like your rising spirit prop. It would look cool in my cemetary. LED"s and fog chiller where my idea's so of course i like them. Multiple projects is good too. Your the boss Dave you decide. God i bet my husband would have like to hear me say that one :D

[BooGirl666]

I would love to make a fog chiller, LED spotlights, and a PVC creature :) I'm cool with the 18th also. There is a guy here at work that maybe I can talk into joining us but I'll let ya guys know if he wants to go or not. Someone get the list of parts we need and I'll see yall on the 18th YAY!! I can't wait!!!

[1031fan]

lucky people having a make and take!!! no ones from around my neck of the woods that would want to - at least none that i know - hope you guys have an awesome time! - make sure you let us know how the props turn out - pics are a must of course :)

[skullking1971]

i would love to be part of your haunters group, im not to far, i live in richmond indiana.

[turtle2778]

Coool. THat would be great. We are going to i believe its called Willmington OH. In this awesome bookstore/deli. Dave's uncle owns it and he is just fabulous. I come from about 3 hours away so its a fairly long drive for me.
I may actually come the night before and stay in a hotel there. I have to bring my kids along and im NOT bringing them to the MNT. I value my sanity. Ill bring my oldest to watch them at the hotel. We'll see it should be fun though.

[dave the dead]

BG!!!! you know better than that! You can't have ALL the toys! LMAO!!!!
There was no all of the above choice in that list! Let's keep it simple this time (more simple than trying to bang out a complete FCG, anyway)
My vote would either be for something like this guy
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/davethedead/IMG_1503.jpg
or a spirit, like this
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/davethedead/rising%20spirit/risingspirit107.jpg

Nothing against fog chillers or led spotlights...I just think those projects would be better at home (unless someone wants to bring a demo....hint,hint)

[dave the dead]

i would love to be part of your haunters group, im not to far, i live in richmond indiana.

I just sent you a PM with all the details...welcome aboard!

[dave the dead]

lucky people having a make and take!!! no ones from around my neck of the woods that would want to - at least none that i know - hope you guys have an awesome time! - make sure you let us know how the props turn out - pics are a must of course :)

mapquest says 6 hrs 32 minutes...395 miles.
how much closer do you want????? No excuses, 1031fan....these are props were talking about here.....

[1031fan]

haha - thanks for the invite dave - and im sure the trip would def be worth it!!! just this thing called a haunted house would kick my ass if i spent 13 hours on the road and over 100 bucks on gas to get there and back - haha - maybe one of these days....

[Bauton]

Sorry, guys. I won't be able to attend. My weekends in August are booked up solid. I think I should be good for most Saturday's in September if we decide to do one then.

Dave, did you get any pictures of the inside of the Harry Potter Haunt?

[dave the dead]

Sorry, guys. I won't be able to attend. My weekends in August are booked up solid. I think I should be good for most Saturday's in September if we decide to do one then.

Dave, did you get any pictures of the inside of the Harry Potter Haunt?

Sorry to hear that bauton. We'll try to get one sometime in September, too...one last blast before october....
My Uncle has a bunch of haunt pix, but I haven't got them from him yet. Unfortunately, it never looks as good in pictures as it does in real life.

[Fright Zone]

Depending on what hours you guys get together, it looks like Aug 18th is the only time I could make it prior to Halloween and Cedar Point's HalloWeekends Season. I wouldn't build anything at the MNT. Even though the dave the dead Rising Sprits are classics. If I build anything this year and have a place to store it at home it'll be the Pumpkin Rot scarecrow head. (http://hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=1734)

So if the timing works out then this MNT would be a good time to demo my fog chillers and give a brief explanation of how they work. Last year I made a 48qt Igloo Vortex Ice Cube chiller and a 26 gallon Trash Can design that I have here. I may be able to show the fogging cauldron effect if I go up North this weekend to get that prop. My 60qt Igloo chiller is incomplete. I'd use that to transport the ice : ) I have two 400W Gemmy foggers. If we do this then turtle could bring her new 700W foggers to see what the difference is. If anyone has a 1000W fogger that'd be good. Here's the Making of a fog chiller thread (http://hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=6880) in which I shared info and links with turtle. You'd have the info you need if you decided to build one or more later without my physical help.

For two demos in one I could bring the Lightning FX unit that I was experimenting with to supplement the fog. See Lightning and Thunder - On the cheap? thread. (http://hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=3804) I'm not sure if I'll have halogen work lamps or not but any lamps will do for a demo. You can see in person if that's something you could buy later that could spice up your haunt.

If you want to build LED's at home, here's the LED spotlight How To thread (http://hauntforum.com/showthread.php?t=7113) courtesy of heresjohnny.

Turtle you could always send the kids to Kings Island (http://www3.cedarfair.com/kingsisland/index.cfm) : ) Actually that might open a logistic can of worms.

[turtle2778]

I plan to make my fog chiller this week so I can bring that one. I have no problem bringing the 2 fog machines i have. Thats cool. Im a wussy when it comes to electronics so i was scared to try the LED's on my own. I think i can handle it. What about speaker/spot hider rocks? They would be easy to transfer if still wet. Im just trying to go with props i need to have. But you know me...Im easy :D . What ever you decide is good with me.

[Fright Zone]

That's good. I have a golf outting to attend on Aug 18th up North. I won't make it to the MNT anyhow to demo my fog chiller. I'll check in on your "Making of a fog chiller" thread to see how your construction went.

[Ghastly Joker]

Damn, I'm in Northwest and it'd take about 5 hours to get to Wilmington. *Sigh* I wish I could make the trip down.

[BooGirl666]

O come on ghastly whats a meesly lil 5 hour trip.... We love fresh meat err i mean friends ;)!!! :D

[dave the dead]

ok, so who's in for sure?
BooGirl, brother, and mom
Turtle (and kids?)
Lagrouesome
SkullKing?
Dave the Dead

I have maybe 4 others from the bookstore, so we just might have a full house!
Do we have a final agreement on the project????

[turtle2778]

O come on ghastly whats a meesly lil 5 hour trip.... We love fresh meat err i mean friends ;)!!! :D

Yeah Im driving 3 hours. Come on itll be fun.

[BooGirl666]

Woo hoo!!! A full house!!!! YAY!!!! Me mom and bro will be there.... Just let me know what to buy for our prop I'm not picky on what we make :D

[Ghastly Joker]

I really do wish I could go. If me and the fam had money for the trip down and back up, I'd gladly go. However, we're focusing on getting things ready for my sister's party.

[turtle2778]

Hey just another idea, but what about the LED flickers flames? I need that for my fireplace also. YES i realize that this is something that i could do at home, with that said it is also supposed to be an easy project that should run smoothly for a large group of people. Did you want me to bring my fog chiller? Its all painted, just waiting for it to dry. I think i should have it done by this weekend.

[dave the dead]

sure Turtle, bring your chiller. I'd love to see one in action.
As for the LED projects....I can't imagine leading a group with a project that I haven't figured out myself. ( I really like it when I look like I know what I'm doing)
I'm pretty sure I could manage the spotlights, but just haven't spent any time researching or trying it yet.

[Adam I]

Do you have room for two more?

[Fright Zone]

Wow it's more like the Kentucky Indiana Ohio Haunters Association ; )

^^ One note about turtle's fog chiller demo to kee in mind is if you demo it outside in this hot humid weather it should theoretically work well because the fog will be colder, and hence heavier, than the air it's in. If you demo it indoors and you have the A/C running it should still work fine but maybe not as well. For one thing the air might be blowing the fog around. Those are my final thoughts on the chiller topic here ; ) Looking forward to seeing photos of turtle's chiller interpretation with a 700W fogger. Have fun!

[dave the dead]

Do you have room for two more?

I don't see why not....:D pm me with some info about who will be coming.

[turtle2778]

HOLY CRAP!!! We are bustin at the seems. Dave are we gunna have room for all of us?? http://www.spookyblue.com/halloween/flickerlight/spookyfire/

This is where i found the idea. I need to have flame effect in my fireplace which is gas and broken,but still hooked up. I thought these would work well since they were battery operated. I like the version Otaku has done. I plan on using the mp3 player that he recommended with a fire soundtrack to go with it. With this diagram. I think i can handle it, but you are more familiar with wiring so i was just curious. Im assuming its the same basic principle for the LED spots. If we do that great if not thats okay too. I offered to bring the chiller cuz without actually including paint drying time or how long it took me to painstakingly jigsaw the hole out since i was cheap and didnt want to spend the 17 dollars for the 3" hole bit. This took me about 30 minutes to put together. I havent tested it yet, im planning on doing that after my son's party on saturday. Its been EXTREMELY hot here 105 plus a heat index. YIKES!!! So im not sure how well it will work, but ill give it a go. OOOH for notes on the spray paint for plastic. It still chips or scrapes off just like the cheap stuff jsut not quite as easily so dont go thinking you can bang this all around just cuz it has some "plastic" paint on it. Okay well thats about it for now. Okay folks lets make our choices on what we do for the MNT. Might as well offer up all the suggestions and vote on it.

[turtle2778]

[QUOTE=dave the dead;152836]sure Turtle, bring your chiller. I'd love to see one in action.
As for the LED projects....I can't imagine leading a group with a project that I haven't figured out myself. ( I really like it when I look like I know what I'm doing)
QUOTE]


Dave even if you didnt how would we tell the difference??? We stand their staring at you :eek: :googly: :eek: thinking how the hell does he know all this. So im sure with your fabulous teaching skills you could fool us. Or just offer us booze, that usually works too! :D

[dave the dead]

ok, so who's in for sure?
BooGirl, brother, and mom
Turtle (and kids?)
Lagrouesome
SkullKing?
Dave the Dead

I have maybe 4 others from the bookstore, so we just might have a full house!
Do we have a final agreement on the project????

Adam I and his wife will be joining us! Skullking? how about you? are you in for sure?

Here's my official vote for a project..... Let's all make a version of my Junior reaper..... you can start to think about design this week and bring any sort of accessory to make it just the way you want. I will have some urethane skulls available , although the mold is looking pretty ragged and my pulls are not that great right now. I have a supply of the dark grey cloth...plenty for all. You all should plan on bringing in pvc and fittings to make a "stick figure" in any configuration that you would like to make....big, small, human, animal...it's totally your call. This will be a project that you will be able to complete on the 18th, and there are plenty of options for spicing it up when you get home (coating in MM or latex paint to stiffen the fabric, for instance)
So, things to bring:
a prop head, skull, or mask .
Hands, if you want your guy to have them ( I can also make up some greatstuff hands to have available)
PVC and fittings. If you want a little prop, 1/2 inch should be fine...if you plan on making a larger one, or if you will be eventually applying MM, go with larger pipe. (if you have questions, just ask) PVC fittings will be used for shoulders, elbows, knees, hips, feet....just think your stick figure through and buy what you need.

I will have some plywood cut out to use for bases to screw your figure down to, and will have screws available.....other than that, its a really cheap project, but the end result is totally up to you and your imagination.

I will also be playing around with led spots this week, and I think we may be able to build some of these as well....not sure about getting bulk leds by next week, though......

If that is too confusing, just let me know.....or if you all decide to mutiny and want to build something else, let me know that too....:D

[BooGirl666]

Sounds good dave!!!! See ya'll next weekend!!!

[dave the dead]

Ok folks, I cleaned up the parts list a bit...hope this helps

<<< remember that you will need to think ahead to decide what sort of figure you want to make, your parts shopping will depend on it!>>>


PVC PIPE--- 20 feet (get whatever diameter pipe you think you will need....small figure with no MM = 1/2 inch pipe /////Large figure with MM applied later, at least one inch pipe, maybe more....I can help with the understructure if you plan on MM later)

FITTINGS: one "X" fitting (neck to shoulders)
four " 90 degree" fittings ( shoulders and hips)
four " 45 degree" fittings ( elbows and knees) (if you want arms and legs bent, that is)
three "T" fittings ( one will be the waist, two will be feet to mount to a board)
<<<<make sure your fittings match the size of your pipe>>>>
it would also be a good idea to grab a few extra of each just in case...you can always return them if you don't need them.

HEAD any sort of prop head....a skull, styrofoam wig head, pumpkin, mache'd head...just whatever you want your figure to look like.(I will have some urethane skulls available for a couple of bucks )

HANDS any sort of prop hand ....rubber hands, skeletal hands, gloves, etc. ( I will also have some greatstuff hands available...let me know ahead of time if you would like a set)

CLOTHING totally up to you....I will have a whole bunch of free grey cloth available that is perfect for this project, and also accepts MM very well. If you want your figure to be clothed, then bring the clothes....just a cape or robe? I have it covered...naked?...you are on your own!

PADDING You may need some sort of inner structer to keep the robe where you want it. Chickenwire works well, also blocks of styrofoam, pool noodles, balled up plastic bags, newspaper....think about what type of figure you want and then decide what you will need to get that sort of form.

OTHER THINGS TO BRING If you have these available, it would help out quite a bit:
PVC cutter or saw, PVC cement, cordless drill, screws, small diameter wire, duct tape, zip ties, staple gun, wire cutters....(all the little things that you don't think of and end up needing.) I will have some tools available to share, but it will make things run smoother if you can bring your own.

Here are two props I made using a pvc frame to give you ideas of the potential here:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/davethedead/IMG_1503.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/davethedead/sign%20contest/signcontestfinal.jpg

[Adam I]

Sounds wonderful, see you all saturday.

[dave the dead]

I went shopping for my PVC tonight.....I think 20 feet may have been overkill ( I am still thinking about building horses and dragons...lol) If you have any last minute questions, let me know before tomorrow evening....I am heading over early and won't be able to check in.
So 9:00 with pvc and ideas ready! (dang...I still have to come up with an idea!)

[BooGirl666]

lol dave.... ok so how much pvc should we bring?

[dave the dead]

lol dave.... ok so how much pvc should we bring?

well....It really depends on how big of a prop you are making....just measure out your arms,legs,torso,and neck to figure it out....add some extra just in case. (20 would be safe, and that's what I'm bringing for myself)

[turtle2778]

Hey guys just wanted to let you know that i wont be making the MNT. I have to work overtime on Sat. Sorry. I cant wait to see pictures of it all. Let me know about the next one. I wish you all lived closer so i could pop over on Sunday, but you dont. DAMN YOU!! :P Again, im sorry and ill miss you all. Take lots of pictures.

[BooGirl666]

YOU SUX TURTLE!!!! I knew you was gonna say that i just knew it..... damn that new job of yours dont they know you have priorities to take care of :p

[Adam I]

Thanks’ again Dave, We had a wonderful time.
I enjoyed seeing your props arranged around the basement.
We are looking forward to the next one!

[BooGirl666]

Wheres the pics!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :D

[turtle2778]

Hell i gotta work saturday this week too. Dont they know i have a life?

[Lagrousome]

What has happened? Where are the pics? What did you guy's make? How did it go? Details....Details......We want details!!!!!

[dave the dead]

What has happened? Where are the pics? What did you guy's make? How did it go? Details....Details......We want details!!!!!

well, let me see...... We created pvc armatures for stand up props last time. Bg worked on a very cool project, but I will leave the details up to her since it will be her MM entry. Her mom and bro had a great time creating a version of the armature i designed, and have special plans for making a (ahem...hack , cough) ....Clown prop. We met Adam I and his wife, and they each made really cool armatures for their yard display. We had some extra time, and each of us got to assemble an LED spotlight thanks to heresjohnny's fantastic tutorial. You can check out my finished prop in the photogallery...Frau Trauermarsh decided to show herself after being in hiding for her entire shadowy existence.

[BooGirl666]

I dont know if I am going to be able to finish my MM entry I started.... We'll see

[Mist]

Grave Watcher tried to get his MM to work, but having trouble. Dave we need help so on the next MNT we will bring it.

[dave the dead]

Grave Watcher tried to get his MM to work, but having trouble. Dave we need help so on the next MNT we will bring it.

send me some info on what the trouble is, and I'll see what I can do to help. We won't be having another MNT until after Halloween, so hopefully I can advise you from here. ;)

[turtle2778]

Damn YOU LIFE!!!! Okay dave i need to make some LED spots...how bout i just send you the stuff and you make it for me :wink: :wink:

[turtle2778]

Okay sooo peeps, when are we gunna get together again? I was thinking after the holidays. I have a couple of ideas that we could try if ur interested.

[dave the dead]

pick a weekend in January and lets get moving. I think I have an idea or two also. don't hold back Turtle....what's on your mind?

[turtle2778]

Well what about a monster in a box or a trash can trauma, easily fit in a car or truck to take home and if we come with the monster box assembled then its just a matter or doing the movement part. Or what about making some tombstones using appliques. Ya know picking up a mold and using clay to form it let it dry bring that and ur styro and various cutting paraphernalia. I would like to get some more movement for next year. I had a lot of positive comments and would like to have a couple shockers for next year. I love how you had your garbage cans set up to scare them. Id have to leave mine out an extra day since its skipping thursday, but so what. Im trying to do a small walk through, just down my driveway. But i would like to have a couple of decent startles too. Or we can do a rocking chair person or a kicking leg guy. Mine was a HUGE success and i purchased him from factory card outlet for 60 bucks. He moved pretty slow and was sound activated, I would liek to add sound of screams and make him move faster so that could be an option. OOOh by the way. The FCG was one of the best things I had. I had a little girl come up to the yard skipping and stop dead in her tracks and stare, she started to back away and her dad said that was the first time all night she had been scared. I cant wait to scare them next year HE HE HE. We could also do a rocking chair guy, ya know pretty much anything using a wiper motor would probably be good. I think i might actually get my husband to come along, he helped so much this year. Okay peeps lets get together with some ideas.

[turtle2778]

Also what about a skull mirror or body parts type thing for a mirror. I would like to have a long one for my back wall. Or using a motion sensor light to operate a prop? I just read something about htat the other night.

[BooGirl666]

YAY I can't wait.... I think January is a great month to start... And I'm up for any of the ideas!

[Bauton]

Let's make it later in January. I vote for the garbage can pop-up!!!

[dave the dead]

Let's make it later in January. I vote for the garbage can pop-up!!!

if everyone says yes to this, plan on the project to cost approx $100. (based on my memory of the trashcan trauma that I built about 7 years ago) This is still one of my favorite toys, and has been very reliable.

[BooGirl666]

$100.00 is a bit much for me right now. I would love to build one but not at this moment. If everyone decides they want to build one, that's ok... I don't have to build anything. :)

[dave the dead]

$100.00 is a bit much for me right now. I would love to build one but not at this moment. If everyone decides they want to build one, that's ok... I don't have to build anything. :)

I'm just going off my memory Steph....There are probably a few shortcuts that could be made to reduce the cost.....if I remember right my first remote came from radio shack and was about $30....you can get them for $10 at menards....also, I spent way too much on air fittings and know better, cheaper methods now, and you could start gathering the supplies a bit at a time, too (if we decide to go for it)
.....sorry to scare you.....


no wait...that's what we do....gotcha!!!!:xbones:

[BooGirl666]

its cool... I aint skeered :grin: Sam makes our pneumatics a bit different than how we made the skeleton pop up. I wonder if his way would make it any cheaper. He uses mini air hoses and plastic connectors.

[turtle2778]

Well im definately up for the Trashcan Trauma. Either way you look at it im spending a bunch. Why dont you people live closer to me!!!!?!?!?!??!

[Adam I]

I'm in for Trashcan Trauma, if I can get the date to work.

Dave, I have 20 valves from a washing machine that would probly work.

[Adam I]

Here's the info on the valve.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x318/Imlaya1999/Valve1.jpg

I took one apart the restriction is on the inlet.

[Adam I]

It's has 110 volt coils

[dave the dead]

It's has 110 volt coils

I have used those before....sometimes they work fine, and others are a bit strange in how they allow air to get thru. Most likely will be ok, though. The TCT needs a large volume to pass quickly in order to spring two cylindars.

[Adam I]

I'll set them aside for the MNT.