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Seems there are basically two camps of DIY Haunters. The clay and cast/mold people and the paper mache people. Everyone is always talking about casting items in latex, or plaster, or silicone. You usually have to order the materials online and pay for shipping, or pay through the nose for a very small amount of materials from a local craft store.

Did you know that you can do the same thing with paper mache?

Specifically paper mache clay. I haven't reinvented the wheel here, I'm just using techniques artist in other areas have been doing for years. I bet there are people on this board that already know how to cast in paper mache clay, but I have not seen anyone mention it anywhere on the boards or show examples.

I'm still playing with the technique at the moment, but I've been very pleased with the results I've seen so far. Plus, this comes right on the heals of MacabreRob's thread on creating Moldable Silicone on the Cheap (Oogoo) . The two items go hand in hand. You can make molds out of Ooogoo, and cast with the PM clay.

I am using a clay recipe from PM artist Jonni Good. She makes wonderful PM art pieces. Granted they are a little tame for haunt use, but her techniques translate directly to what we do. She is a great resource to check out. While you are checking out Jonni's recipe and techniques, pop on over to Dan Reeder the Monster Man's site for more great PM techniques.

I will update this post with more info and a proper How-To if there is enough interest, although you smart people could probably figure it all out by just reading the links in this post and playing with the material.

In the meantime, here is a video of a couple items I cast in PM clay. The drying time for these items was accelerated dramatically by using a microwave to dry the pieces in two minutes intervals. The small white skull only took 15 minutes to mold, dry, and demould. That's 15 minutes for a wad of gluey paper pulp to dry completely. That's faster than latex.

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Jaybo,
Im making a bunch of medusa sconces this season and a few other archetectural things and I may use paper mache clay to do it, looks like they finish very well. Thanks for the info.
Ive been interested in this for a while since I saw these works at Scarborough Faire
http://www.shatterdvisages.com/
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Great link Allen.... although it makes me really want a SOLAR OVEN!!! I'm really liking this technique, and am adoring the testing stages!
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Thanks for all the great info!
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Jaybo,

I'm also a big fan of Jonni and Dan Reeder. Stolloween is also a great resource, particularly for haunt-specific paper mache.

Your masks/skulls look great.

I'm curious about your casting + microwave experience. What are you making your mold's from? Oogoo? Plaster? something else?

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Great idea, thanks for taking the time to point this out! I've been visiting JG's Ultimate Paper Mache site over the last few months, but have yet to try her paper clay recipe. Do you use the linseed oil in the recipe or go without?
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Jaybo,

I'm also a big fan of Jonni and Dan Reeder. Stolloween is also a great resource, particularly for haunt-specific paper mache.

Your masks/skulls look great.

I'm curious about your casting + microwave experience. What are you making your mold's from? Oogoo? Plaster? something else?

Thanks.

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Right now I haven't created a proper mold. I have just used a few plastic skulls I had sitting around to test the clay. I cut the skull open and pressed the clay inside. I then placed the whole thing in the microwave for two minutes at a time. I would let the item cool for a bit, and test the firmness of the clay and condition of my impromptu mold. I kept doing this until the clay was firm enough to demold. I then flexed the plastic mold and removed the cast piece. It was still somewhat clammy on the front, so I put the piece in for one last two minute run. Took about 8 minutes of microwave time.

I plan on trying to create some molds using Oogoo next. I'll update the thread with my results.
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Great idea, thanks for taking the time to point this out! I've been visiting JG's Ultimate Paper Mache site over the last few months, but have yet to try her paper clay recipe. Do you use the linseed oil in the recipe or go without?
Did not use any linseed oil, and the clay was fine. The only change i would make is probably add a little bleach and salt to the water to help deter mold. That may not be necessary, I just get a little paranoid of mold.
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Didn't our microwave owners manual say something about "don't put plastic skulls in the microwave?" Oh, maybe that was tin foil, sorry... continue

:muttering: damn men in my kitchen, microwaving skulls. *Stay away from my expensive pots and pans!!!*
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Dixie, you sound like my wife LOL. If you want help making a silicone mold Jaybo, just set a time and come on over. My shop is open to you.
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