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This is the last one guys before we move to the quarters. Decided to go a little more realistic with this last. We have a Prophet of Doom lurking about offing individuals in a biblical sort of way much like another of his ilk, Anton Phibes, going against a psychotic psychiatrist that is soft spoken and charming...at least until he has your liver with some fava beans and a nice chiante. Masterpieces both by David Fincher and Jonathan Demme and two flicks that made Anthony Hopkins and Kevin Spacey household names. Cannibalism and mutilation run rabid through this bout; who will win between the self-righteous John Doe and the SINISTER Hannibal Lecter? The polls are open!
 

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:eek: I never saw SEVEN. :p

Hopkins rocks in Silence of the Lambs though.
 

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I can barely remember seeing "Seven", but I will always have fond memories of chianti and fava beans (I don't like liver). "Silence of the Lambs" is easily one of the ten best films of the nineties, brilliant on all counts. The performances of Sir Anthony and hottie Jodie resonate on every level. I can ill think of two finer performances in the last couple of decades. Oscars all around. Exactly one-half exhilaration, exactly one-half terror!
 

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It seems that Hannibal the Cannibal is out in front with 2 over the angst ridden Doe-Boy. I'm not too hopeful for the other movie drawing a single vote. 'Twould seem this one is going to be a landslide victory for the evil Lecter.
 

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I like both Seven and Silence of the Lambs .. I personally found great in both movies, but I would have to go with Silence of the Lambs. Anthony Hopkins is an incredible actor and I think he did a awesome job as Hannibal Lector.
 

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That's three. Oh Hell! I might as well go ahead and make it unanimous with four. If you want to get down to brass tacks, I should just go ahead and close the damn thread. I'm giving Zombie-F, Thingit, Omega or whoever else wants to post before I do. Then I'll send Kevin Spacey back to the showers where he can masturbate until his hearts content. This seems like a hopeless slaughter.

Silence of the Lambs is one of those movies that leaves a lasting impression on your psyche that doesn't go away no matter how many times it's viewed. There are some flicks where someone can ask me, "What was that movie with so and so..." they can describe it in detail and the name of the flick can elude me even if I've seen it because it did nothing for me. Not so of this classic. "Silence," is unique because although Buffalo Bill is supposed to be the lead villain, it is the incarcerated cannibalistic psychiatrist that steals the show. You don't really care for the rest of the cast more than this one character that isn't even onscreen half of the movie, but his presence is always felt. Really now, how many of you really missed Jodie Foster in Hannibal? I doubt a single one of you, because the intrepid Agent Starling isn't the crux of the story. It all returns to Hopkins and his chilling portrayal of everybody's favorite onscreen realistic serial killer of all time.

Se7en is a great movie in its own right but can't really compete with the formers brutal impact. It tries, it really does, but somehow you just never really connect with Doe like you do Lecter. The performances by Freeman, Pitt, Spacey and yes, even Paltrow are up to the game, but they are just up against a superior force in this match. Both films are perfect in their own rights, but Silence of the Lambs is just the better of the two movies.

Silence of the Lambs-4

Se7en-0
 

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Yeah, my vote's with Hopkins and co. too. Se7en is a great movie too, and this was a tough choice for me, but I think Se7en relies on gore for shocks and less on the psychological side of things.

Silence was masterfully put together from start to finish and succeeds in painting the portrait of pure insanity in TWO characters in the movie; Lecter and Wild Bill.

Silence of the Lambs - 5

Se7en - 0
 

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**Spoiler in First Sentence**

Poor Ms. Paltrow, not only did she lose her head, but she will do it in vein. I'm voting for Silence. Though Somerset is a groundbreaking character who has the distinct insider-inside role of knowing what's going on often before the audience does, Clarice Starling is far more fascinating because the audience is right with her every step of the way. She's a beginner in a film where there surely is a lot going on but we experience more than 90 percent of it from her point of view (a little more than Se7en to be sure) so she rarely knows something before or after we do. And Silence wows us and shocks us on a level more psychological and approachable than Se7en which is something all viewers seem to need to do more studying on before watching the film. Se7en always seemed to me to be something you needed to bring a higher knowledge and sometimes even a religious background to viewing the film. And it's impossible for me to sympathize or identify with Pitt's character, he seems to represent the cynical cop that I hate. And I don't feel sorry for him in the end when what happens to his wife happens. I understand what he did and it's only what he does that makes me identify with him in that moment. But that's the only moment. He is just not a standout character. He's yet another showoff, like 99 percent of Pitt's characters to be honest. In that way I was quite bored whenever he was onscreen and had to try to let Morgan Freeman draw me into awkward scenes where Pitt was just being very annoying.

Then Silence shows us with Buffalo Bill, a very bluntly conflicted character. How can a gay man agree with what the Nazi's stood for? His nature is quite amazingly defiant of what is inherently natural in gay men: compassionate toward women, mild mannered, non-aggressive behavior. He is none of these things. And while gay men like all races and types of people, break the impressions and stereotypes all the time, this is not your average serial killer. Making his sexual orientation not at all interesting, and drawing questions of where else he deviates from what is typical behavior for killers or sociopaths. And his extreme care and kindness toward insects. What makes them so different from humans? Why is he gracious toward these living things, what does he see in them that is so beautiful? Is there a quality the dog has in common with these moths, and if so, what is it? With all the care he puts into creating his new skin, does he stop and think about what will happen once it is finished?

And then there's Lecter, who doesn't really interest me all that much. But of course Anthony Hopkins is amazing in his portrayal, it's impossible not to watch that film and learn something from him or not see something you haven't seen before. I think one of his least interesting moments was the "census taker once tried..." line because he seems to use it poorly to keep from answering Starling's question about potential hypocrasy on Lecter's part.

Again, sign me up for chops of lambs tonight. Silence - 6 / Se7en - 0
 

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"The son of a bitch ordered a second dinner tonight; LAMB CHOPS, EXTRA RARE!"

I will be closing this thread here in a day or so. This match it would seem is a foregone conclusion. I just hope the next one won't be as easy for us to simply breeze through with a clear-cut winner.
 

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Your vote was already counted for Silence of the Lambs... I don't know if you can withdraw it now, but are you sure you didn't mean to vote with that Hannibal Lecter praise?
 

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With an incredible six-to-zip showing, I'm awarding the match to Silence of the Lambs. I thought for sure there would be those that would rally to Fincher's film and try to pull it from the brink of oblivion, but it just couldn't withstand the evil prowess of Hannibal the Cannibal.

And so this ends the preliminaries and we move right into the Quarter-Finals. I hope you are all having as much fun with this as I am. Stay tuned; more good things to come!
 
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